Caledonian Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Please don't boycott Stenhousemuir. It will cause social unrest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagmaster Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 All that stuff is not about the end of the world. It's about change, and we are most certainly seeing a massive upheaval in Scottish football. The key point is not to fear change, accept it, welcome it, someting good comes out of it, however long that takes. Exactly, I hate how people think it is doomsday. From what I have read, they believed the planets will align with each other on 20th Dec 2012 and with this phenomena there would be great changes. Personally, I think it will mean an increase in natural disasters, floods, earthquakes etc. But I would be happy if the biggest change is a sinkhole to appear beneath ibrox and we say goodbye and good riddance once and for all. Goan the Mayans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartyMac Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 What's all this talk of a vote on the 13th? They've changed it to Friday 13th so that the headline writers at the Daily Record can have one final shot at scaring the life out of the clubs. You can just see the back page now, can't you? The Grim Reaper, the scythe, the big letters with blood dripping off them. It's a wet dream for the hacks. People still buy this shite. Sad times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Says it all, here....... My link What an excellent article. It and the comments below it should be addressed by Regan and Doncaster immediately - especially the fact that there are so many shareholders of oldco in positions of responsibilty. Surely no one should hold shares in a club if they are part of the sfa management structure or involved in any way at another club. Greenie for you sir ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokcomble Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 WTF is Regan doing at Fifa hq today ,on beeb news spouting on about goal-line technology, shouldnt he be here in scotland sorting out this omnishambles??? (unless its been recorded previously ) I'd imagine he said something along the lines of "if we don't get this goal-line technology sorted out soon they'll be rioting in the streets of Raith" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 They will still be comfortably the 2nd best supported team in the country. Wouldn't be too sure about that - their crowds dipped pretty far down when they weren't doing well in the top league, so once the novelty wears off, I can see their maintenance costs coming down when they're only using one stand... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 GRANNY DANGER IS RIGHT ! You all need to calm the fcuk down. Every time there is is news or some complete fud or fanny in the media spouts doom and gloom and the newco will evade any serious punishment or favourable fast tracking,this thread deteriorates into newco ragers media style panicking.The media and powers that be are only thinking of one thing ! themselves. Remember from Feb 14th onwards ? the durty cheating B*stards are going to get away with this and continue in the SPL winning trophies and the league and sticking their fingers up at us like it never happened and will be worse fans than ever because of it !. Well here we are in July and at every turn the newco's so called immediate return/entry into the SPL and now the SFL is in serious jeopardy.And what's the SFA's response ? we'll veto and place the newco in the 1st division anyway ,I just wonder what the SFL's response to that will be if they vote the newco should start in the 3rd division ?.Will they refuse to play any newco in protest ?. In my opinion ! this ain't over by a long shot YET,there is too many mitigating circumstances that is going to hamper any phoenix newco gers from dominating any form of football in any league.There's the infighting battle to gain control of the newco and if Green looks like he is going to lose the battle then I am going to stick my neck out and say he will liquidate the newco in an instant by placing it in admin,he will leave the newco with crippling debts and hefty possibly non paid running costs.Before the start of the new footballing season the pressure at Ibrox is going to reach boiling point as I don't believe Green has the finances even if the newco was suspended for a year.Green was banking on pre season ticket sales at SPL prices in the tens of thousands and bomber Brown came along and blew that plan up in Greens face.The newco phoenix gers main problem is cash flow,with the orcs boycotting season tickets Greens master plan is going down the toilet faster than vindaloo sting ring attack.Greens plan B must be something really nasty for the clubs assets. So sit back and enjoy the sinking of the S.S. TITANIC NEWCO as she begins her maiden voyage possibly this season coming,only to be sunk by the orcberg that is it's own fans wanting rangers minded men at the helm at any cost including the club itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Super Ally tallies the "punishments". Good value for not paying tax? Boo fuckin hoo Welcome to real life Fat Sally. This isn't 'A Qustion Of Sport' so you don't get bonus points for making people laugh. And some of the punishments actually refer to Rangers not to newco. :D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 JuanFran who does these is a genius 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Wouldn't be too sure about that - their crowds dipped pretty far down when they weren't doing well in the top league, so once the novelty wears off, I can see their maintenance costs coming down when they're only using one stand... Not really they staff that tupe over will still need to be paid as will there tax ni and pension contributions...and closing stands doesnt necessarily mean that costs of the year are necessarily reduced. The expensive infrastructure that sdm built means that newco in sfl3 ( and maybe even sfl1 ) will be like rebecah adlington trying to win olympic gold with an anvil tied to each leg. Had Duff and Phelps punted a shedload of staff on their first day like every other administration in the history of administrations...it would have been much easier for newco now. A Cynical person might believe that the plan from day one was to liquidate and rock up for spl again next season like nothing has happened due to compliant media and passive diddy fans.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Can this please be move to another part of the forum? It clearly isn't SPL material 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I really wouldn't trust all those no votes, did some of them come out before Doncaster spent a day with the SFL threatening them? Not a single peep from my club throughout this whole saga... I'll admit I did a quick check to make sure your team wasn't celtic...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 One of P+B???? Letter from Kirkcaldy local paper Re Turnbull Hutton Dear Sir, May I take this opportunity to voice my thanks and register my appreciation of the brave and ethical stance taken by Mr. Turnbull Hutton the Chairman of Raith Rovers in response to the combined bullying of SPL,SFL and latterly the SFA. This potential league gerrymandering is beyond belief when you consider that league fixture lists have already been issued and clubs have budgeted accordingly prior to this blatant attempt at bullying and bribery. This is no longer sport it is a financial accommodation where a few powerful executives are threatening to expel 20 clubs (the majority who have over a century of History in Scottish Senior Football) unless the smaller clubs fall into line with their last minute proposals which do not even meet the criteria of their own rule book. At a purely local level Mr Hutton's stand has restored the faith of all fair minded Raith fans who have invested their hard earned cash and have already bought their Season Tickets. They have done so in the belief that they are helping in their clubs forward financial planning and playing their part in maintaining the integrity of the SFL rather than looking at short sighted financial gain. At the time of purchase they believed that they will this season attend derby games between Raith Rovers, Dundee and Dunfermline. My understanding is (and I do stand to be corrected if I am wrong) is that in voting in favour of this frantic mechanism to elect Sevco into the First Division Raith fans would be deprived of at least two of these fixtures, not to mention the obvious financial benefit to the club as one of these local clubs would be promoted to the SPL. Vote against this proposal and if it is still carried, you will suffer the threat of boycott from the Sevco fans and besides the resultant loss of revenue, and as previously pointed out by Mr. Hutton, the threat of harm to the clubs directors and stadium. The third and Nuclear option is that if you vote against, and the vote for Sevco election is not carried, a second tier Premier League will be created to which you will not be invited to play in, thus you will be cast into the football wilderness. Surely SFL clubs deserve better treatment than this ? This cannot be called in anyway remotely democratic. I trust that Mr. Hutton is able to negotiate a sensible and fair resolution to the predicament that has been thrust upon him by the total inaction of the football authorities in carrying out their duties as per their own constitution. Yours in sport Mr. G. Munroe A 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Queen of the South's statement. My link Seems they will let the fans know after they decide what to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) In an earlier post, someone outlined the massive running costs that any new Sevco XI would still have, but with 3rd Div crowds / prices / sponsorship - etc... Got me thinking. With a threadbare squad, I think they would still be a lot better than their Div 3 rivals - but this same squad parachuted into a bloody hard league with steet-wise outfits like Falkirk, Dunfermline/Dundee, Partick... and more... they could struggle. From a financial POV, the argument from nappy-clarting prophets of doom is that they want Rangers back in the SPL as quickly as humanly possible, so having them start in Div 3 is a killer. As I have suggested, Div 1 will be a helluva' lot harder to crack. Not so sure that a newco parachuted into Div 1 would guarantee that quick return that the suits crave. Just a thought. Edited July 5, 2012 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 GRANNY DANGER IS RIGHT ! You all need to calm the fcuk down. Every time there is is news or some complete fud or fanny in the media spouts doom and gloom and the newco will evade any serious punishment or favourable fast tracking,this thread deteriorates into newco ragers media style panicking.The media and powers that be are only thinking of one thing ! themselves. Remember from Feb 14th onwards ? the durty cheating B*stards are going to get away with this and continue in the SPL winning trophies and the league and sticking their fingers up at us like it never happened and will be worse fans than ever because of it !. Well here we are in July and at every turn the newco's so called immediate return/entry into the SPL and now the SFL is in serious jeopardy.And what's the SFA's response ? we'll veto and place the newco in the 1st division anyway ,I just wonder what the SFL's response to that will be if they vote the newco should start in the 3rd division ?.Will they refuse to play any newco in protest ?. In my opinion ! this ain't over by a long shot YET,there is too many mitigating circumstances that is going to hamper any phoenix newco gers from dominating any form of football in any league.There's the infighting battle to gain control of the newco and if Green looks like he is going to lose the battle then I am going to stick my neck out and say he will liquidate the newco in an instant by placing it in admin,he will leave the newco with crippling debts and hefty possibly non paid running costs.Before the start of the new footballing season the pressure at Ibrox is going to reach boiling point as I don't believe Green has the finances even if the newco was suspended for a year.Green was banking on pre season ticket sales at SPL prices in the tens of thousands and bomber Brown came along and blew that plan up in Greens face.The newco phoenix gers main problem is cash flow,with the orcs boycotting season tickets Greens master plan is going down the toilet faster than vindaloo sting ring attack.Greens plan B must be something really nasty for the clubs assets. So sit back and enjoy the sinking of the S.S. TITANIC NEWCO as she begins her maiden voyage possibly this season coming,only to be sunk by the orcberg that is it's own fans wanting rangers minded men at the helm at any cost including the club itself. I agree that it very much seems like Green's only way of securing working capital was through transfer fees and st sales. Sadly i think that regan and doncaster are also aware of this hence the desperate and disgraceful attempts to fix as high a league position as possible. Their talk of reduced revenue is a smokescreen...the old rfc are dead as are the days of ibrox being full of 50 thousand glory hunters cheering on a side that cant be paid for. If thats what sponsors and sky wanted ( and no one from any sponsor or sky has confirmed this) ...then those days are already gone.The suits know that newco cannot survive in sfl 3. For me regan and doncaster are sacrificing the credibility of the league system purely for the benefit of one team, and to the long term detriment of all the rest. The hope is that continued fan power on social media like this will continue to thwart this corrupt plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokcomble Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Quote PRESS STATEMENT: Scottish Football League clubs are, over the next few days, being asked to make a crucial decision as to whether we are in a position to accommodate Rangers into the SFL. I can confirm that, at this point, no decision has been taken by the Board of the SFL or by any of our clubs. The time has come for all outside influences and pressures to stop. This is our national game and part of our culture so I ask all other bodies to leave it to those who have been put in this invidious position to make a decision in the best possible interests of our game. I have every faith in the judgement of those clubs and their Boards to make a considered and reasoned decision which will be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed. A specially convened meeting of all clubs is planned for Friday, 13th July, 2012. David A. LongmuirChief Executive, SFL5th July, 2012. He's still calling them 'Rangers' Regan obviously not too happy about fan pressure on their respective clubs. Outsiders indeed ! Keep up the pressure. Hasn't he resigned yet anyway ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Wouldn't be too sure about that - their crowds dipped pretty far down when they weren't doing well in the top league, so once the novelty wears off, I can see their maintenance costs coming down when they're only using one stand... If Newco were to get accepted in the Third Division how many of their fans would splash the cash on a season ticket? Are we talking about 5,000, 10,000 or 20,000+? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshimmy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 GRANNY DANGER IS RIGHT ! You all need to calm the fcuk down. Every time there is is news or some complete fud or fanny in the media spouts doom and gloom and the newco will evade any serious punishment or favourable fast tracking,this thread deteriorates into newco ragers media style panicking.The media and powers that be are only thinking of one thing ! themselves. Remember from Feb 14th onwards ? the durty cheating B*stards are going to get away with this and continue in the SPL winning trophies and the league and sticking their fingers up at us like it never happened and will be worse fans than ever because of it !. Well here we are in July and at every turn the newco's so called immediate return/entry into the SPL and now the SFL is in serious jeopardy.And what's the SFA's response ? we'll veto and place the newco in the 1st division anyway ,I just wonder what the SFL's response to that will be if they vote the newco should start in the 3rd division ?.Will they refuse to play any newco in protest ?. In my opinion ! this ain't over by a long shot YET,there is too many mitigating circumstances that is going to hamper any phoenix newco gers from dominating any form of football in any league.There's the infighting battle to gain control of the newco and if Green looks like he is going to lose the battle then I am going to stick my neck out and say he will liquidate the newco in an instant by placing it in admin,he will leave the newco with crippling debts and hefty possibly non paid running costs.Before the start of the new footballing season the pressure at Ibrox is going to reach boiling point as I don't believe Green has the finances even if the newco was suspended for a year.Green was banking on pre season ticket sales at SPL prices in the tens of thousands and bomber Brown came along and blew that plan up in Greens face.The newco phoenix gers main problem is cash flow,with the orcs boycotting season tickets Greens master plan is going down the toilet faster than vindaloo sting ring attack.Greens plan B must be something really nasty for the clubs assets. So sit back and enjoy the sinking of the S.S. TITANIC NEWCO as she begins her maiden voyage possibly this season coming,only to be sunk by the orcberg that is it's own fans wanting rangers minded men at the helm at any cost including the club itself. Ok. I'm cool. Thanks y'all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Can this please be move to another part of the forum? It clearly isn't SPL material That joke was funny when a hundred people said it yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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