Forever Diamond Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 FWIW I'd say that what Airdrie subsequently got away with was far more distasteful than simply admitting them to the 3rd division so you can read that precedent either way. For your information,Airdrie at that point didn't exist.Jim Ballantyne placed a bid in for an about to be liquidated company,and was the highest bidder.They then renamed Clydebank to Airdrie United.Technically we are still Clydebank as has been pointed out by others.So i fail to see how this is classed as more distasteful than a club that cheated and ran up huge debts,including tax fraud for up to 20 years or more,has been allowed to continue as a newco with the oldco history,wiped out almost all the debt,had a slap on the wrist by being placed in the 3rd,but allowed to now build a team that could take them all the way back up again. It may be me,but i fail to see how were the worse of the 2 scenarios. Airdrie United were never to be allowed into SFL for reasons that seem to have been forgotten for Ranger.We were rejected in favour of Gretna,as newco should have been for Spartans. Bigger companies have went to the wall without ever cheating anyone,let alone the taxman,but somehow the powers that be have eased a cheat and fraud back into our game.Only now they will be a little better off long term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirondistNYC Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 1342823418[/url]' post='6451665']Anyone noticed the Murray statement now renders any agreement/contract he does sign with the SFA null and void .. as he will only be signing it 'under duress' (which makes a an agreement/contract illegal or unenforceable) He has stated it for and on the the record in the public domain ... What the f**k will the SFA do now at short notice ... 'just accept them signing it' ? Someone should email the SFA and ask them what they plan to do about it ... Personally I think they should now be fcuking booted out .... Edit: and ask the Spartans to apply ... throwing the phrase "duress" into a PR statement is not the same thing as real duress, let alone the type required to invalidate a legal agreement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirondistNYC Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 1342823621[/url]' post='6451675']so, are we saying rangers are the equivalent of 'beady eye'? Or after a few defeats with bairns and big lee more like 'bonehead's oasis' at butlins @ bognor in ten years time....with no other original members left (a bit like the **** front line soon)!! More like Guns N' Roses, except with return to the SPL standing in for the release of "Chinese Democracy". Both, after ll, we're confidently assumed to only require three years.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Meanwhile, over on OrcMedia: What's the budget?Rangers on a good CL year would have taken in up to £60M, without a good European run, perhaps £35Mish. Now in the depths of SFL3? I guess perhaps £20M? You could buy any player in Scotland outside the usual Old Firm scenario with that - the question is would they come. I think Rangers should stash the cash in preparation for SPL football again. The problem is that if the Sky/SPL debacle does pan out to be bad for those clubs, we could be back in the SPL for 2013-2014 but unable to sign anyone until Jan 2014? I think they need sign up a few up to £5000 per week players, that is a wage bill of about £2.5M for 10 decent players which is 13% of revenues - a lot better than the 40+% we were shelling out on player wages in the SPL. So sign up 10 good SPL level players and let them see us through to the top flight again. It's basically a balance between ensuring a hassle free rise up the leagues but also preparing the war chest on the top flight return. In that light, a few game changers like Rudi Skacel is not unreasonable - if Ally can persuade them. I'd take any of:Michael Stewart Kevin Kyle Craig Beattie Ian Black Gary Teale Rory McCalister Please, please, please do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Probably because the SFL get a share in the SPL's media rights. This gets more confusing by the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Airdrieonians died never to return, It was shocking what the SFA & SFL allowed to happen to Clydebank And on this i will agree.I was gutted for,and still feel for Clydebank.It was not how i wanted for it to be,just to be able to watch an Airdrie side playing once more at New Broomfield. Edited July 20, 2012 by Forever Diamond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It's kinda like when a band suffers a messy split and the lead singer tours with a new band and releases kinda crp albums under the old name. Everyone knows its not the same, but they're allowed to do it. Actually there's usually a messy legal case to see who gets the name, royalties etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Why is it unreasonable to rid yourself of something that is not good.They will up and leave us in a flash if the English league accepts them,or there is an European league started.So don't try and kid yourself on that we would miss them,they certainly wouldn't miss us.If this had been any other club bar the OF that cheated HMRC for years,we would not be having this discussion.They would have been added to history of clubs that cease to exist in Scotland. Butter it up any way you want,but they have got off very lightly,everything will be the same in a few years minus their massive debts.They will only gloat at us to remind us that they were too big for us too kill off,when actually all it is,is that our FA has succumed to the temptation of greed.If SKY was not an issue they would have buried Rangers long ago.It just proves how greedy they actually are by now negotiating a 25 match tv deal to watch them in the 3rd,why the feck wasn't there a 25 match deal for the lower divisions before now. So they may be on paper the most successful side in the world,their fans may gloat on their history.......but when they remove the red,white and blue spectacles and see them as the rest of Scotland does,they will then realise that there is nothing of the last 20 years or more to be proud of Rangers FC for. The glass half full response is that even 9 months ago no one imagined that we'd even be arguing about/complaining about this It's progress at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 More like Guns N' Roses, except with return to the SPL standing in for the release of "Chinese Democracy". Both, after ll, we're confidently assumed to only require three years.... It aint Van Halen without DLR Sorry, wrong thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesgreen Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Is the match on if no agreement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 But then you would never have had your big pay day in '86 I just idolise yer pals - honest http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=232209 SOOOOO contrite and don't even know EFFC reached quarter finals when yez were pumped oot by Falkirk in the 3rd round -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huistrinho Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No, there's no match tomorrow - it got pulled earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Airdrieonians died never to return, It was shocking what the SFA & SFL allowed to happen to Clydebank An old colleague of mine used to live on the south side of Glasgow and was a Third Lanark supporter as a boy.. When the Hi Hi died, he changed his allegiance to Partick Thistle and later he ended up living in Clydebank. Luckily he stayed loyal to the Jags and avoided seeing two of his clubs dying, although Partick did come close. My point? Sometimes football clubs die. Accept it and move on. eta : a wee snippet from the Thirds history The club was declared bankrupt after the Board of Trade enquiry and was liquidated in 1967. It was alleged that Boardroom corruption played a role in this outcome. On 1 July 1968 four former directors of Third Lanark were found guilty of contravening the Companies Act 1948 and fined £100 each. The investigation by the Board of Trade accused club chairman, Bill Hiddleston, of blatant corruption and that "the circumstances (merited) police inquiry". Hiddleston died of a heart attack in Blackpool in November 1967. Edited July 20, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 :lol: :lol: :lol: I really have to get back on there. Unfuckingbelievable You're just pissed off you picked the wrong username. *Forgive me if someone got there first but I have just logged on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Has anyone else saw this bbc sport update ? Thoughts ? http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18929983 This is baffling. They probably want Rangers media rights to make up for them not being in the SPL. The authorities in this country are scandalous. Also has it been explained yet why SPL approval is required (or if)? What are SPL approving? Article doesn't say. Probably because the SFL get a share in the SPL's media rights. Only indirectly, through geting ££ under the Annual Settlement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huistrinho Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Honest? Are you gonna piss on wee EFFC? Watch oot Yep, honest. Can't play until the SFA deem the club fit to receive a license. Needs to be sorted next week or it's bye bye D3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Diamond Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 1. We're not Scottish football chief. 2. You need to separate the horrible nature of the kunts from the issues at hand. 3. I'm pretty sure that Airdrie fans are the last people who should be taking the moral high ground here. No offence and all that. The company has gone bust. The team have dropped three divisions, lost all their decent players, will have to go a full year without signing players and have more sanctions to come but, yeah, apart from that what did the Romans ever do for us? No offence and all that,you having a laugh.Just because were Airdrie United fans means we are not allowed to have a comment on what is right or wrong.Airdrie never cheated or committed fraud to be where they are. As for dropping three divisions,we could argue that is not true as they are meant to be a newco,now that the SFA seem to be handing them back their history though i would probably have say sadly it is true. My heart bleeds for them going a year without being able to sign any players.It should have started from now,and not allow them to have an opportunity to buy the best players they can to get an easy ride back to the 1st,possibly the SPL. And what did the Romans do for us,well for me they gave a great day out.Hadrians wall is a great little visit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymores Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 No, there's no match tomorrow - it got pulled earlier. Where is your £400 seat @ Ibroke Huist so we can point n laff -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huistrinho Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Where is your £400 seat @ Ibroke Huist so we can point n laff How am I going to distinguish you from all of the other people pointing and laughing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'm still trying to get my head around this latest SPL thing... there seem 3 aspects that defy expectation. Firstly - what is it that SPL have to approve else the whole thing collapses? I expected it'd just be a matter for SFA, OldCo + NewCo plus SFL agreeing with the embargo. Secondly - why do SPL want more sanctions? If they'd got their way and Rangers had gone straight into the First Division with a plan to bounce-back straight away, you doubt they'd have been gunning for more sanctions!! Thirdly - on what grounds can SPL be demanding a share of TV rights? Surely that's a matter for SFL itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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