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If it wasn't for the sheer speculation on here Rangers would be kicking off their SPL campaign next week rather than Newco playing at Brechin this Sunday.

Wow.

And some above were slagging Celtic for 'taking credit' for Rangers' demise...talk about delusions of grandeur...

I'm not saying that the groundswell of opinion - when based on concrete evidence I may add (i.e. statements from Doncaster/Regan and representatives of almost every SPL club) - wasn't crucial in the decision to banish Sevco from the top leagues, but it was hardly the only factor. And this site is hardly the reason that many thousands of season ticket holders chose not to buy their tickets this year before decisions were made.

Come on, be realistic here.

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Does the shooter on that zombie pic up there have a celtic clover on his back? If so, why? Celtic can hardly claim this as their doing, considering the silence has been deafening from them for the past few months. Self aggrandizing twats.

Give it time , in 10 years time the next gullible generation will be indoctrinated into the belief it was all a masonic conspiracy to give TCKRFC a slap on the wrist but the Celtic support and club ensured justice was done despite the whole of Scottish football steeped in Red white and Blue were hell bent on them retaining their tainted titles .

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I'm not saying that the groundswell of opinion - when based on concrete evidence I may add (i.e. statements from Doncaster/Regan and representatives of almost every SPL club) - wasn't crucial in the decision to banish Sevco from the top leagues, but it was hardly the only factor.

What other factors came into it, do you think?

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Wow.

And some above were slagging Celtic for 'taking credit' for Rangers' demise...talk about delusions of grandeur...

I'm not saying that the groundswell of opinion - when based on concrete evidence I may add (i.e. statements from Doncaster/Regan and representatives of almost every SPL club) - wasn't crucial in the decision to banish Sevco from the top leagues, but it was hardly the only factor. And this site is hardly the reason that many thousands of season ticket holders chose not to buy their tickets this year before decisions were made.

Come on, be realistic here.

I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

You're new here, right?

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I have just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading that blog article and another 2 minutes attempting to make sense of what you and your m8 "Leggo" are attempting to say. Needless to say i gave up. Booooooooooooring. wink.gif

I have not read the blog, I couldn't get past the title;

PETER LAWWELL HIGHJACKS NEIL DONCASTER

could someone please point out to that illiterate fucking idiot that its "Hijacks".

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What other factors came into it, do you think?

-Rangers and their fans' own shameful conduct - before, during and after administration. Arrogance, lack of apologies, not paying debts to those who would be voting on their future, threats of boycotts, that ridiculous presentation at the final meeting etc.

-Implied threats from FIFA/UEFA. (And possible banning of Europe/national team). I don't think this would ever have happened, but it couldn't be entirely discounted.

-Chance to change things - voting rights, league reconstruction and possibility for some of challenging for 2nd.

-Last - and probably least - sporting integrity.

As I say, the fan power was crucial to the pressure on chairmen, but it wasn't the only show in town.

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oooh i like that - one star on the shirt for each lane ?

"look - look - d'ye ken tha' ya fucker - even moar stars than we had before eh - get that' right fuckin' roon ye....."

I'm curious to know the answer. M8 and m77 both run past which one is it ???

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-Rangers and their fans' own shameful conduct - before, during and after administration. Arrogance, lack of apologies, not paying debts to those who would be voting on their future, threats of boycotts, that ridiculous presentation at the final meeting etc.

-Implied threats from FIFA/UEFA. (And possible banning of Europe/national team). I don't think this would ever have happened, but it couldn't be entirely discounted.

-Chance to change things - voting rights, league reconstruction and possibility for some of challenging for 2nd.

-Last - and probably least - sporting integrity.

As I say, the fan power was crucial to the pressure on chairmen, but it wasn't the only show in town.

I've highlighted those things that had no bearing on the SPL's decision.

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In fairness I can see why there should be considerably controversy over Peter Lawell getting involved with SPL TV negotiations... firstly, he's not even a member of SPL's Board, and secondly, he is a member of SFA's Board which will approve/disapprove Rangers membership transfer application.

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I have not read the blog, I couldn't get past the title;

PETER LAWWELL HIGHJACKS NEIL DONCASTER

could someone please point out to that illiterate fucking idiot that its "Hijacks".

He was maybe using predictive text on his mobile and was trying for HIgh-fives ;)

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In it's true that SPL are paying SFL £1.2M for TV rights (either per year or over 3 years) then... should the SFL's distribution model not be altered... these would be annual pay-outs to clubs:

If deal for £1.2M per season...

... £66,000 to SFL1 clubs

... £39,600 to SFL2 clubs

... £14,400 to SFL3 clubs

If deal for £400k per season

... £22,000 to SFL1 clubs

... £13,200 to SFL2 clubs

...... £4,800 to SFL3 clubs

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In it's true that SPL are paying SFL £1.2M for TV rights (either per year or over 3 years) then... should the SFL's distribution model not be altered... these would be annual pay-outs to clubs:

If deal for £1.2M per season...

... £66,000 to SFL1 clubs

... £39,600 to SFL2 clubs

... £14,400 to SFL3 clubs

If deal for £400k per season

... £22,000 to SFL1 clubs

... £13,200 to SFL2 clubs

...... £4,800 to SFL3 clubs

Of course they should be altered, £4,800 for an SFL3 club is a joke, this is a lost opportunity for the smaller teams, £30/£40k a season could have dramatically improved things at the diddier diddies.

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In it's true that SPL are paying SFL £1.2M for TV rights (either per year or over 3 years) then... should the SFL's distribution model not be altered... these would be annual pay-outs to clubs:

If deal for £1.2M per season...

... £66,000 to all SFL1 clubs

... £39,600 to all SFL2 clubs

... £14,400 to 9 SFL3 clubs

:blink:....£1.08m to 1 SFL3 club

Due to a quirk in the rules (that no-one has written yet!)

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Sevco will get their membership, i just can't see the SFA etc not letting it happen. They've left it so late that to try and get another team in would cause chaos again.

My concern is that the SPL and SFA will 'deal' with Sevco and allow them not to face sanctions on second contracts, any punishment being levied against RFC (IA).

They won't allow them a licence unless they accept all the points about accepting the consequences of their host club. I think we are seeing Regan and Co playing for their own futures. If there is a fudge then the groundswell against those in power would be too much for them to survive.

The scenario of simply ignoring the past and allowing them to carry on without responsibility to any wrong doing defies the noises coming from the talks. At the start the actions were more about securing financial situations, now with the Sevco starting in the 3rd clubs will have already started to reappraise their financial burden and by the time Sevco returned to the top tier the perceived financial dependency would not exist.

I feel the authorities feel their member clubs are aware of the financial situation and it is now more important to ensure there is a clear intent to show there is no magic bullet out of financial mismanagement.

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