stonedsailor Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Instead of selling off the company, why are they not making cutbacks? They have, they have cut back on security and as a result can only accommodate slightly under 1000 away fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Not much rioting going on when you've shoved down a few too many space cakes Benny , I should know, you can't be arsed even trying to stop some tramp robbing yer pockets in the main streets having a wee gauoch against a bus stop. : Top banter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The Amsterdam riots have been airbrushed from history..... Nah, there's plenty of footage showing stupid fuckers running into poles for your amusement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You'd think that a QC would show some respect for law and order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Nah, there's plenty of footage showing stupid fuckers running into poles for your amusement. Shocking , what did the polish community of Amsterdam do to result in green and grey unwashed hordes running into them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 He really doesn't like any negativity regarding celtic, strange stuff. What cutbacks would you suggest Rico? Boardroom types reducing their massive salaries... Boardroomers refusing to take their massive bonuses... Boardroomers putting in place decent finacial deals for the club rather than lining their pockets... Stopping paying themselves made up fees.... Allys infamous wages... Now to get fans back and crowds back up to the mid/high 40'000,s they could show some transparency and run the club properly. A common sense post from Bennett. Those boardroomers are top businessmen and should expect a remuneration to match their skills. The bonuses are deserved for saving the Rangers name and trade marks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You'd think that a QC would show some respect for law and order. You can only respect something only when it is just and fair, unlike our corrupt legal system that allows demented laws to be passed only to rape my pocket for more cash so they can spend it on stupid things that line other peoples pockets who have many millions in the first place. Law & order are two completely differing ideals Benny, one stops you from doing something and the other ideal is a myth that often uses violence to maintain the corrupt status quo. Just look at all the legal peaceful protests that the police have deliberately turned in to riots so they can do their masters bidding and stop the many from bringing the few corrupt fuckers to heel. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy88 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Worrying times for Scotland's newest club might be going to liquidate. The Rangers Football Club took Rangers Football Club fan's. A massive fan base compared to other football teams in Scotland. I was firstly worried when The Rangers started in Division 3 - they signed a lot of Scottish Premier league standard players. This was a strange move because a new club has to take small steps. I can compare The Rangers Football Club to Gretna Football Club. Gretna, i think won Division three, two and one - and ended up in the highest league in Scotland ( SPL ) Gretna also signed "SPL" standard players from Division 3. I assume these "High" standard players were on high wages. I think this is the exact same problem that The Rangers Football Club has currently. High standard players on high wages. A The Rangers fan would be happy for the newest team in Scotland to gradually work there way up the leagues with a lower standard of player on lower wages. If it's not because of the players wage's i don't know why their running at a loss. Is the ticket prices too high? A football club should aim to fill the stadium at a fair price. Is the pie's and bovril too expensive? Is there a lot of food wastage? Are the Rangers Football Club energy efficient? Do they keep the prices down by having there staff in semi-darkness with "Motion sensor energy" I fear that The Rangers Football Club have been overly ambitious just like Gretna Football Club. If The Rangers Football Club goes bust - i think someone should buy the club and gradually work there way through the division's with player's on a low wage. Gretna Football Club are now called Gretna 2008 Football Club, maybe The Rangers Football Club can be called Rangers 2014 Football Club. Edited August 29, 2014 by robroy88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Shocking , what did the polish community of Amsterdam do to result in green and grey unwashed hordes running into them ^^^ Terrible banter FB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 ^^^ Terrible banter FB. Apologies, qc. A bad joke is not a crime is it ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 ^^^ Terrible banter FB. Damn feckin' tootin'. It's positively boak inducing. Then again, he's only 20, it'll be a few years yet until his synapses mature and he'll be capable of something approaching intelligent thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Big fat DJ just said he thinks Laxley should shore up the club for the millions it will take for them to continue as they won't want to make a loss on their investment.....Does that mean they get the deeds if the pony up the money then rent out the stadium to Sevco 2? Or do the just go bust and take a cut of sell on value of what they have in the spivs other companies name? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Worrying times for Scotland's newest club might be going liquidate. The Rangers Football Club took Rangers Football Club fan's. A massive fan base compared to other football teams in Scotland. I was firstly worried when The Rangers started in Division 3 - they signed a lot of Scottish Premier league standard players. This was a strange move because a new club has to take small steps. I can compare The Rangers Football Club to Gretna Football Club. Gretna, i think won Division three, two and one - and ended up in the highest league in Scotland ( SPL ) Gretna also signed "SPL" standard players from Division 3. I assume these "High" standard players were on high wages. I think this is the exact same problem that The Rangers Football Club has currently. High standard players on high wages. A The Rangers fan would be happy for the newest team in Scotland to gradually work there way up the leagues with a lower standard of player on lower wages. If it's not because of the players wage's i don't know why their running at a loss. Is the ticket prices too high? A football club should aim to fill the stadium at a fair price. Is the pie's and bovril too expensive? Is there a lot of food wastage? Are the Rangers Football Club energy efficient? Do they keep the prices down by having there staff in semi-darkness with "Motion sensor energy" I fear that The Rangers Football Club have been overly ambitious just like Gretna Football Club. If The Rangers Football Club goes bust - i think someone should buy the club and gradually work there way through the division's with player's on a low wage. Gretna Football Club are now called Gretna 2008 Football Club, maybe The Rangers Football Club can be called Rangers 2014 Football Club. The problem lies with the size of the club and it's high ambitions amongst the fans and it's board. The club is expected by the fans to sign better players than anyone else and also outspend it's opposition in doing so. The stadium is far too big to even try to half the running costs or even field a squad of players within it's budget because the fans expect success and if there is not even a sniff of pummelling the opposition they won't get the paying punter to attend the stadium. This club is in a precarious position now created by Chucky pandering to the lowest common denominator telling them all sorts of pie in the sky stories that they only wanted to hear. There was a small chance when the former club died to oust the gloryhunters of the support by starting off small and eventually build up through the leagues at a profit albeit a small one but a profit no the less and rely on the real support who support the club no matter what. But the spivs, ganstas, conmen etc etc etc seen a glorious opportunity to fleece around a possible 50,000 fans and an extra God knows how many armchair supporters who fed them they will return no matter the cost. If there was a real Rangers minded person at the helm from the start of the reformation of the club there might have been a good chance for the club to slowly rise from the ashes instead of cloning what was the problem in the first place for the club !, success at all costs. My opinion of course before some twat tries to pass it of as fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Worrying times for Scotland's newest club might be going liquidate. The Rangers Football Club took Rangers Football Club fan's. A massive fan base compared to other football teams in Scotland. I was firstly worried when The Rangers started in Division 3 - they signed a lot of Scottish Premier league standard players. This was a strange move because a new club has to take small steps. I can compare The Rangers Football Club to Gretna Football Club. Gretna, i think won Division three, two and one - and ended up in the highest league in Scotland ( SPL ) Gretna also signed "SPL" standard players from Division 3. I assume these "High" standard players were on high wages. I think this is the exact same problem that The Rangers Football Club has currently. High standard players on high wages. A The Rangers fan would be happy for the newest team in Scotland to gradually work there way up the leagues with a lower standard of player on lower wages. If it's not because of the players wage's i don't know why their running at a loss. Is the ticket prices too high? A football club should aim to fill the stadium at a fair price. Is the pie's and bovril too expensive? Is there a lot of food wastage? Are the Rangers Football Club energy efficient? Do they keep the prices down by having there staff in semi-darkness with "Motion sensor energy" I fear that The Rangers Football Club have been overly ambitious just like Gretna Football Club. If The Rangers Football Club goes bust - i think someone should buy the club and gradually work there way through the division's with player's on a low wage. Gretna Football Club are now called Gretna 2008 Football Club, maybe The Rangers Football Club can be called Rangers 2014 Football Club. ? Read the thread ffs. They did go bust, and restarted as the Rangers International Football Club in the forth tier. This is about how close Rangers Mk3 is. The Third Reich if you will............ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Apologies, qc. A bad joke is not a crime is it ? Well Bennett hasn't been jailed yet has he. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Big fat DJ just said he thinks Laxley should shore up the club for the millions it will take for them to continue as they won't want to make a loss on their investment.....Does that mean they get the deeds if the pony up the money then rent out the stadium to Sevco 2? Or do the just go bust and take a cut of sell on value of what they have in the spivs other companies name? http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/w/worthington-group-ordinary-10p-shares/share-news ^^^ Scuppers 'Sale and Leaseback' by the look of it They are doomed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) The problem lies with the size of the club and it's high ambitions amongst the fans and it's board. The club is expected by the fans to sign better players than anyone else and also outspend it's opposition in doing so. The stadium is far too big to even try to half the running costs or even field a squad of players within it's budget because the fans expect success and if there is not even a sniff of pummelling the opposition they won't get the paying punter to attend the stadium. This club is in a precarious position now created by Chucky pandering to the lowest common denominator telling them all sorts of pie in the sky stories that they only wanted to hear. There was a small chance when the former club died to oust the gloryhunters of the support by starting off small and eventually build up through the leagues at a profit albeit a small one but a profit no the less and rely on the real support who support the club no matter what. But the spivs, ganstas, conmen etc etc etc seen a glorious opportunity to fleece around a possible 50,000 fans and an extra God knows how many armchair supporters who fed them they will return no matter the cost. If there was a real Rangers minded person at the helm from the start of the reformation of the club there might have been a good chance for the club to slowly rise from the ashes instead of cloning what was the problem in the first place for the club !, success at all costs. My opinion of course before some twat tries to pass it of as fact. Sensible post actually HBQC, fair play. Although I understand what you say about starting small we wouldn't have necessarily needed to completely downsize , what we could have done was breed a young team , take a chance on a young European manager and develop a style and build a young team who would be battle hardened and gain valuable experience whilst playing through the 3 divisions. Rather than squander money willy hilly on journey men etc. a huge chance was missed and we have stumbled from mess to mess instead. Edited August 29, 2014 by forever_blue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Big fat DJ just said he thinks Laxley should shore up the club for the millions it will take for them to continue as they won't want to make a loss on their investment.....Does that mean they get the deeds if the pony up the money then rent out the stadium to Sevco 2? Or do the just go bust and take a cut of sell on value of what they have in the spivs other companies name? DD, the holding company in the event the club folds over will have ownership of just about everything that is the club minus the debt, they will control everything that is Rangers except what makes an actual football club ie players,registrations,licences and so on. The spivs will be banned from running a football club but will hold anyone wishing to resurrect another Rangers FC to ransom by owning all the assets the new owners will need to resurrect the club as a complete club according to it's fans. Que Dave King possibly to resurrect the club again from the aftermath to once again fleece the fans and pander to their needs about fighting for the clubs assets on the cheap. The spivs will hold the keys to the blue kingdom that is the stadium and other assets, the question maybe is will the fans still follow a Rangers FC playing at another stadium and still call themselves the very same club ?, will they ground share at Hampden to accommodate tens of thousands of fans like No8 & Tedi who will readily throw money at any club called Rangers FC claiming to be over 140 years old under control of the likes of King ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/w/worthington-group-ordinary-10p-shares/share-news ^^^ Scuppers 'Sale and Leaseback' by the look of it They are doomed. Does Worthington get their dough back as I thought it was the original Rangers that died they lent to was it not? Were there shares suspended due to giving unannounced loans to the Rangers that died? Also see Craig Whyte has 7% in this company, don't understand much of this shite but it does look as the whole Rangers journey was a stich up from David Murray onwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Does Worthington get their dough back as I thought it was the original Rangers that died they lent to was it not? Were there shares suspended due to giving unannounced loans to the Rangers that died? Also see Craig Whyte has 7% in this company, don't understand much of this shite but it does look as the whole Rangers journey was a stich up from David Murray onwards. Well said sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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