~~~ Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Sevco Board meeting minutes.. http://www.rangers.co.uk/images/FansBoard/Minutes/RFB_Meeting%20_261114.pdf I see the request from the female fans for the immediate return of the Orange strip has been put in the suggestion box And even better news is that Sally wont be going anywhere soon Stenaline has allocated the Belfast boat to Celtic fans for the semi final only and I feel this is unacceptable to the thousands of Rangers fans filling their boat throughout the season. Further to that, P&O, who are accommodating Rangers fans, are more expensive that Stenaline, and when you factor in the cost of travelling to Larne from Belfast or Co. Down, the cost increases again and that is before we even secure a match ticket. I would like you to contact both ferry companies and lobby for a more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It's still funny. We all know they died. Why do they keep this petted lip shite going? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It's still funny. We all know they died. Why do they keep this petted lip shite going? Newcunto Victim FC ? (apologies to shull) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Sevco Board meeting minutes.. http://www.rangers.co.uk/images/FansBoard/Minutes/RFB_Meeting%20_261114.pdf I see the request from the female fans for the immediate return of the Orange strip has been put in the suggestion box And even better news is that Sally wont be going anywhere soon Will need to ask that old pal of mine why they weren't attending, orange tops? She'll be getting pesters for that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If Rangers and Celtic fans could behave like adults they wouldn't need to be treated like children. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 You know, i remember when the famous and financially secure, double European trophy-winning Aberdeen, were slagged for being on the fiscals rocks because we had gotten rid of the club toaster. Oh how times have changed. Ho ho ho, Merry Sevco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Do they know it's Christmas time at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 And even better news is that Sally wont be going anywhere soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiockCharnlery Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) CHRISTMAS IS CANCELLED IN GOVAN I have a feeling this is merely the shallow end of the dark, dark depths The Rangers Inter will soon sink to in order to stave off their inevitable liquidation. Won't be long until they're plundering the proceeds for children's hospices and auctioning off "nights with a player" to chain smoking Margaret1690 of Rangers Media in her electric wheelchair. Edited December 11, 2014 by ChiockCharnlery 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 http://www.unlockthelaw.co.uk/News/what-next-for-former-rangers-owner-craig-whyte.html WHAT NEXT FOR FORMER RANGERS OWNER CRAIG WHYTE? – HOW THE SCOTTISH CRIMINAL PROCESS WORKS The appearance of Craig Whyte at Glasgow Sheriff Court on Friday 29th November brings to five the total number of accused persons charged with involvement in the allegedly fraudulent takeover of Rangers Football Club in 2011. All of the accused have made initial appearances in private at Glasgow Sheriff court and have been released on bail. Court reports of such hearings usually state that "the accused appeared in private and made no plea or declaration. He was granted bail and no future court date was fixed " So, what does that mean and what are the likely timescales that lie ahead before a trial is held in this case? WHAT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR?When an accused is charged with a serious offence, they appear at a Sheriff Court and are prosecuted on solemn procedure ( the procedure for less serious matters is called summary procedure). Before the court appearance the accused is served with paperwork prepared by the Procurator Fiscal (the Prosecutor in Scotland) and this will provide the details of the charges that the accused now faces. Legal advice is provided at this stage and throughout the procedures to follow. The accused then makes an appearance in private before a Sheriff, known as the "first appearance "and normally makes "no plea and declaration " – this isn't a plea of guilty or not guilty , it is in reality a formal step that starts the case off and is the way in which the vast majority of solemn cases commence . The question of bail is then discussed and if granted the standard conditions of bail are imposed , such as that the persons attends court for future hearings , does not commit any offences while on bail and makes themselves available for background court reports if required. Extra conditions of bail can be imposed – for Mr Whyte he required to surrender his passport thus preventing him leaving the United Kingdom. WHAT LIES AHEAD?Disclosure of the Case - After the "first appearance" is made the Crown must move quickly to disclose the Crown case to the solicitors of each of the accused. This means that all of the information relevant to the case that is held by the Crown should be given to the defence – and this includes witness statements, documentary productions such as bank statements, emails and transcripts of police interviews. The defence solicitors will examine this evidence, take instructions from their client and also then make their own investigations. This process usually continues throughout the months leading up to the trial, especially for complex cases such as large scale fraud. Trial date - All accused in this case are on bail. This means that the timescales for commencing a trial are longer than they would be if any of the accused had been remanded in custody for trial. The case is prosecuted by the Crown and they must bring the case to trial within twelve months of the accused's first appearance.The Crown will normally look to try all accused at the same trial rather than holding separate trials for each accused. At least twenty nine days before the next court appearance the Crown require to serve important paperwork called "the indictment " upon each of the accused . The indictment - The indictment will contain the names of each of the accused and the details of the charges against all accused. Witness details and a full list of Crown productions will be provided too. The indictment will also identify which court will hear the proceedings as cases on solemn procedure can be heard at either the Sheriff court (where sentences are restricted to a maximum of five years imprisonment) or the High Court of Justiciary, where sentencing powers are unlimited. The indictment will also provide the date and time of the next court appearance. If the case is to be heard at the High Court the next court date is called a Preliminary Hearing. In the Sheriff Court such hearings are known as a First Diet. Pleas entered - At the start of such hearings each accused requires to plead guilty or not guilty to each of the charges that they face. The defence team at this stage can choose to lodge any "preliminary pleas" that they have – perhaps where they say that the case should not proceed at all against an accused due to a legal reason. The court may fix a separate hearing to deal with such issues and if successful this could mean the entire prosecution comes to an end against that accused. If refused a not guilty or guilty plea requires to be made. Pre- trial - If not guilty pleas are recorded and the Crown want the matter to proceed to trial the hearing will progress like a "pre-trial " hearing where the Court enquires about the state of preparation of all parties for trial , details of witnesses and productions and whether there is evidence that can be agreed that will make the trial run more smoothly . The accused at this stage may also lodge notices which are known as " special defences " and these cover such things as stating an alibi defence , or blaming a co-accused or other person. Trial - Once these matters are dealt with the case will then be continued to trial and a jury will consider the evidence and decide whether each accused is guilty or acquitted of each charge. Acquittal means that the accused has been found either not guilty or not proven in relation to the charge – both verdicts mean that the accused is acquitted and that the matter is at an end . If guilty pleas are returned the Judge would then sentence each convicted accused after hearing a plea in mitigation. Mitigation - If the accused pleads guilty at the Preliminary Hearing stage and this is accepted by the Crown the Judge would then be told about the circumstances of the crimes. The accused would be represented by an Advocate or Solicitor Advocate who would conduct what is known as a " plea in mitigation " – a speech where the involvement of the accused in the crime is explained along with providing details of their personal circumstances , previous good character if appropriate and any other relevant information . The Judge will consider all of the relevant information placed before him or her, including any background or medical reports and will then proceed to sentence the accused. The accused would normally receive a discount in sentencing due to the fact that the guilty plea was entered at a relatively early stage and meant that a trial wasn't required. When there has been a trial and the accused is then found guilty , no discount is applied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiockCharnlery Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "There could be a lot of social unrest if Craig Whyte is found innocent, it also could spell financial armageddon for the future of Scottish clubs if this type of crime is left to go unpunished" - Neil Doncaster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "There could be a lot of social unrest if Craig Whyte is found innocent, it also could spell financial armageddon for the future of Scottish clubs if this type of crime is left to go unpunished" - Neil Doncaster It doesn't say a lot for the SFA/SPL's own due diligence process (in terms of ' a fit and proper person' test) though does it Neil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 It doesn't say a lot for the SFA/SPL's own due diligence process (in terms of ' a fit and proper person' test) though does it Neil. If only it was the clubs responsibility to ensure that test is carried out correctly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 If only it was the clubs responsibility to ensure that test is carried out correctly. Both surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Both surely? So you think it's a good use of the governing bodies time, to duplicate jobs being carried out by it's members? Should they employ a specific team to do this? How much time should they dedicate to each case before coming to a conclusion? Who would be accountable if neither found a party unfit? Would a company have a right to appeal if the SFA decision opposed the company findings? Or how about the company just does it's own dirty work and therefore blame can be laid at their own door instead of someone elses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I believe AJ raised concerns to Davros Murray about Nookie Whyte, but it seems that message was never passed onto the football authorities by DeadRangers (I'm sure it was just an admin error) . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Its only the non playing staff that have had their Christmas cancelled, playing staff will get their Christmas party/night out/ karaoke in Newcastle or somewhere as usual. How much money do you reckon the entire 1st team squad plus all the coaches and maybe a few directors and hangers on could go through on a night out taking in the club paying for staying in a hotel of standard, food, drink and other expenses like taxis or gifts for the players?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiockCharnlery Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Its only the non playing staff that have had their Christmas cancelled, playing staff will get their Christmas party/night out/ karaoke in Newcastle or somewhere as usual. How much money do you reckon the entire 1st team squad plus all the coaches and maybe a few directors and hangers on could go through on a night out taking in the club paying for staying in a hotel of standard, food, drink and other expenses like taxis or gifts for the players?. That's not The Rangers Inter FC est 2012 way. They're a center-right, loyalist, unionist, Protestant club and have been since their foundation 2 long years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Even the boat companies are fleecing them We Are The Boat People! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Its only the non playing staff that have had their Christmas cancelled, playing staff will get their Christmas party/night out/ karaoke in Newcastle or somewhere as usual. How much money do you reckon the entire 1st team squad plus all the coaches and maybe a few directors and hangers on could go through on a night out taking in the club paying for staying in a hotel of standard, food, drink and other expenses like taxis or gifts for the players?. A swing and a miss. The players pay for their own night out. It was usually paid for by the fines the players paid throughout the season and any cash left was then donated to a Charity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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