GreenockRover Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 To be honest.... we were never OFF that list since Turnbull called them out for what they were. ...and are ...and continue to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Koop Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 A few months ago you were on your high horse about dual ownership issues, now you are implying that it's a trivial issue. Is that a big white high horse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Koop Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 He must be fed up with the quiet life in Iraq and Syria. Is that not Giovanni DiStefano you're thinking of? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Can I ask what may seem a stupid question in this but if Whyte could buy the oldco fully fledged Rangers for a £1 and that seems a reasonable valuation by the hordes why is MA's possible £10 million secured loan seen as controversial given they have went through a shiteload of cash in three years. So the tribute act supporters want someone to spend in like Murray knowing its a failed model that ended in their demise, do they have a death wish ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p&b is a disgrace Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It would appear so 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The whole 'security over Ibrox' argument is a red herring that only make sense to the intellectually challenged. Businesses throughout Scotland, and elsewhere, use their assets as collateral to secure a loan. There's nothing unusual here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Friday tomorrow. Have filled the bath full of jelly and the bin full of ice cream (washed it first). Premature? Get Carol Vorderman and Rachel Riley in the bath and something will be premature for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Can I ask what may seem a stupid question in this but if Whyte could buy the oldco fully fledged Rangers for a £1 and that seems a reasonable valuation by the hordes why is MA's possible £10 million secured loan seen as controversial given they have went through a shiteload of cash in three years. So the tribute act supporters want someone to spend in like Murray knowing its a failed model that ended in their demise, do they have a death wish ? Errrrr..... Yes. The majority of their fanbase don't see the Minty years as a failure either. It won them lots of shiny silverware and that's ALL that matters. It's not how or who could afford it, it's the fact they won stuff. Sure, Minty had to conceal the debt in his specially set up companies within MIH Group but - hey, who cares they WON STUFF! Bought big in the transfer markets. Were courted by ALL the press / media. They WERE THE PEOPLE! Now, we all know (?) the story of Icarus and how his demise was pretty much inevitable, well Rangers fans would sooner blame the sun than admit they flew too close in the first place. The fanbase, and, it must be said, some of the would be owners/directors of the entity at Ibrox have become addicted to their (self) perceived stature and do indeed want to return to the discredited model of financing the ridiculous by means of the incredulous (maybe that's better the other way around ?) Unfortunately for them the days of being able to call upon ludricous/dubious sources of finance to fund these ridiculous gambles or ego trips has pretty much gone the way of the dodo. At the very least, the idea that that kind of behaviour can be embarked upon un-noticed now has gone. There will always be a spotlight on them now. Questions will always be asked, by others if they can't be relied upon to do it for themselves. Any credibility they ever had (lol) has gone forever. Any strong governing authority, not conflicted by one of its' members being entangled in the web of deceit, would have been far more transparent and effective in dealing with this sleazy mess... but that's another subject. I simply wonder how MANY versions of their Club they will see before the penny drops. ETA: sloppy grammar and spelling ffs! Edited January 22, 2015 by GreenockRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/307557-rangers-goalkeeper-steve-simonsen-accused-of-betting-on-55-matches/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendthatis Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Newcastle 19th in World Football World Rankings. Maybe doesn't prove Ashley is a nice guy, but he ain't doing half bad for Newcastle. Wonder where a Dave King led Rangers would sit in this list? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeHectorPar Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Can I ask what may seem a stupid question in this but if Whyte could buy the oldco fully fledged Rangers for a £1 and that seems a reasonable valuation by the hordes why is MA's possible £10 million secured loan seen as controversial given they have went through a shiteload of cash in three years. So the tribute act supporters want someone to spend in like Murray knowing its a failed model that ended in their demise, do they have a death wish ? They're into self-harming. "Nobody likes us, even ourselves, and we don't care" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo1872 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Errrrr..... Yes. The majority of their fanbase don't see the Minty years as a failure either. It won them lots of shiny silverware and that's ALL that matters. It's not how or who could afford it, it's the fact they won stuff. Sure, Minty had to conceal the debt in his specially set up companies within MIH Group but - hey, who cares they WON STUFF! Bought big in the transfer markets. Were courted by ALL the press / media. They WERE THE PEOPLE! Now, we all know (?) the story of Icarus and how his demise was pretty much inevitable, well Rangers fans would sooner blame the sun than admit they flew too close in the first place. Now the fanbase, and, it must be said, some of the would be owners/directors of the entity at Ibrox have become addicted to their (self) perceived stature and do indeed want to return to the discredited model of financing the ridiculous by means of the incredulous (maybe that's better the other way around ?) Unfortunately for them the days of being able to call upon ludricous/dubious sources of finance to fund these ridiculous gambles or ego trips has pretty much gone the way of the dodo. At the very least, the idea that that kind of behaviour can be embarked upon un-noticed now has gone. There will always be a spotlight on them now. Questions will always be asked, by others if they can't be relied upon to do it for themselves. Any credibility they ever had (lol) has gone forever. Any strong governing authority, not conflicted by one of its' members being entangled in the web of deceipt, would have been far more transparent and effective in dealing with this sleazy mess... but that's another subject. I simply wonder how MANY versions of their Club they will see before the penny drops. Sums it up nicely IMO. Winning trophies and getting it up those pesky Catholics is what matters. How they go about it and any hint if long term sustainability isn't important in the mind if your average 'Rangers man'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 When is pay day at Ibrox? Bound to be drawing ever closer. Tuesday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Would I be right in saying either Sevco accept somebodys money (MA) or they will default next week on wages? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/clubs/rangers/307557-rangers-goalkeeper-steve-simonsen-accused-of-betting-on-55-matches/ Convicted tax criminal wants to take over the club, with his chum who was also involved on the board of the club that died. Current player caught betting against his own side, current player found betting when it's against the rules. Previous club that didn't pay it's taxes to Her Majesty and failed to pay millions in other debts. The whole place should be closed down and bulldozed!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Simonsens been a prat and the SFA have caught him gambling, after Blacks fiasco he should have known better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Simonsens another cheat, and the SFA need to hammer him and the clumpany for a lack of care after letting Black off scot-free. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 the team that keeps on giving 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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