nacho Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Haha nacho you are my new hero - what a prize pilchard. You do realise that The Rangers Football Club Limited is the entity dreamed up by Sir Charles of Greenshire? The one I mentioned earlier, which used to be called Sevco Scotland? You've just proved the point that everyone in the world (bar Sevconians and those with vested interests) can see. Cheers! i am aware that the rangers football club limited is the newco, the statement makes it 100% clear that this newco runs the club that has been around for over 140 years - what point were you attempting to make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacho Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No it isn't. It's lifted straight from RIFC's prospectus. It is a bit of blurb that RIFC plc came up with, nothing else. And, as I mentioned, still doesn't back you up in any way. Every piece of proof that The Rangers are a new club will get ignored by you. To say there is no evidence is idiotic in the extreme. Proof though: This thread is full of it. For example, Rangers (a football club) voted to let The Rangers (soon to be a football club) into the SPL. Are you saying that this is not evidence that 2 clubs existed, so therefore the one now playing is a 'new' club? Even if you believe 100% in seamless continuation, you have to agree that this is a bit of evidence on the 'New Club' side of the argument, no? The careful wording here is brilliant too. They obviously, even back then, knew that RIFC possibly didn't own any of the assets. 'Playing at'? 'Benefitting from'? What absolute numpty would ever, ever buy shares in a company that didn't even know if it owned all its main assets? I mean, come on? there is no evidence thats stands up to the slightest scrutiny backing your new club argument - as for your proof i.e this guff "Rangers (a football club) voted to let The Rangers (soon to be a football club) into the SPL" thats your opinion only and not backed up by evidence - the evidence available shows that the entities you are taling about were companies that ran the club not clubs at no point were there ever two football clubs. the club was transferred over from oldco to newco on june the 12th 2012 and thats the official position of all the footballing authorites home and abroad and every other credble source available - you claim otherwise but there is no evidence you can provide that backs your nonsense up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 there is no evidence thats stands up to the slightest scrutiny backing your new club argument - as for your proof i.e this guff "Rangers (a football club) voted to let The Rangers (soon to be a football club) into the SPL" thats your opinion only and not backed up by evidence - the evidence available shows that the entities you are taling about were companies that ran the club not clubs at no point were there ever two football clubs. the club was transferred over from oldco to newco on june the 12th 2012 and thats the official position of all the footballing authorites home and abroad and every other credble source available - you claim otherwise but there is no evidence you can provide that backs your nonsense up I'm interested. What is a football club then? How would you define it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i am aware that the rangers football club limited is the newco, the statement makes it 100% clear that this newco runs the club that has been around for over 140 years - what point were you attempting to make? It absolutely does not. It states RIFC owns TRFC. This is correct, and as you say, TRFC is the newco. Nowhere does it mention another club. Anyway, why would a club need to be held by two companies? That's ridiculous. And, as monkey says, what is a club? Is it the bibs n cones CG bought? A spectre, looming around the dark, macabre labyrinth of Ibrox? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm interested. What is a football club then? How would you define it? The 'club' is all the good stuff (trophies won, runs in europe, charity work..) And the 'company' is all the bad stuff (debt, corruption...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 there is no evidence thats stands up to the slightest scrutiny backing your new club argument - as for your proof i.e this guff "Rangers (a football club) voted to let The Rangers (soon to be a football club) into the SPL" thats your opinion only and not backed up by evidence - the evidence available shows that the entities you are taling about were companies that ran the club not clubs at no point were there ever two football clubs. the club was transferred over from oldco to newco on june the 12th 2012 and thats the official position of all the footballing authorites home and abroad and every other credble source available - you claim otherwise but there is no evidence you can provide that backs your nonsense up If the club transferred over on June 12th, why exactly did Newco not have a vote on the 4th of July? Did everything transfer bar its voting rights? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) ive read the statement carefully its 100% clear that the club is connected to the company by the simple fact that the sentence about the club is there, if the club was indeed new and the club is the company why talk about a totally unconnected clubs/companys achievements which according to you lot has nothing to do with the company mentioned there in an official statement? utter gibberish from you as usual To hoodwink dribbling simpletons like yourself into ploughing their hard earned into their pockets. Seriously, learn how to read properly. It might save you from going through this all over again sometime in the future. ETA: 'clubs/companys achievements'! Jesus. Edited October 21, 2015 by Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The 'club' is all the good stuff (trophies won, runs in europe, charity work..) And the 'company' is all the bad stuff (debt, corruption...) Given some previous shenanigans, you could move a percentage of charity work from the good stuff to bad stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm interested. What is a football club then? How would you define it? FFS, must we go over this again? A football club is an intangible, ethereal essence of footballyness, that cannot be corrupted, altered or destroyed. It simply is. Now if you can't get your head round that, there is no hope for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Nacho sure is touchy about his old club perishing and having to support a new club. His attempts to just pretend it is still the same club being undermined by nobody else willing to buy into the charade. Gretna 2008 FC Rangers 2012 FC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Nacho sure is touchy about his old club perishing and having to support a new club. His attempts to just pretend it is still the same club being undermined by nobody else willing to buy into the charade. Gretna 2008 FC Rangers 2012 FC When exactly was it exactly, that Rangers fans started denying the club was in liquidation? Does it count as cognitive dissonance or is it just plain old delusion? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Look it's very simple, Rangers are the same club just like Leeds both clubs went through identical insolvency events, apart from Rangers CVA being formally rejected by HMRC, ,Rangers voting for Rangers to join the league, and their best players walking away and refusing to TUPE over, Rangers being unable to join the Scottsh cup at the correct stage , Rangers having their ECA membership downgraded, Rangers having to apply to join the 3rd division and Rangers not paying a penny to their creditors......apart from that, it's the exact same! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 When exactly was it exactly, that Rangers fans started denying the club was in liquidation? Does it count as cognitive dissonance or is it just plain old delusion? Some of them are battling with dissonance, but most of them are still stuck at the delusion stage.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstoun Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Look it's very simple, Rangers are the same club just like Leeds both clubs went through identical insolvency events, apart from Rangers CVA being formally rejected by HMRC, ,Rangers voting for Rangers to join the league, and their best players walking away and refusing to TUPE over, Rangers being unable to join the Scottsh cup at the correct stage , Rangers having their ECA membership downgraded, Rangers having to apply to join the 3rd division and Rangers not paying a penny to their creditors......apart from that, it's the exact same! There was also the bit where Rangers had to ask the SFA for permission to use Rangers' players to play Brechin in the challenge cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 there is no evidence thats stands up to the slightest scrutiny backing your new club argument - as for your proof i.e this guff "Rangers (a football club) voted to let The Rangers (soon to be a football club) into the SPL" thats your opinion only and not backed up by evidence - the evidence available shows that the entities you are taling about were companies that ran the club not clubs at no point were there ever two football clubs. the club was transferred over from oldco to newco on june the 12th 2012 and thats the official position of all the footballing authorites home and abroad and every other credble source available - you claim otherwise but there is no evidence you can provide that backs your nonsense up Sorry chap, only clubs could get a membership. Someone has been lying to you it seems. Poor nacho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Diddies , diddies discussing Rangers everywhere 54 and counting lads We welcome the chase 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Diddies , diddies discussing Rangers everywhere 54 and counting lads We welcome the chase I welcome punctuation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i am aware that the rangers football club limited is the newco, the statement makes it 100% clear that this newco runs the club that has been around for over 140 years - what point were you attempting to make? With such a strong understanding of the situation, I can only assume you were one of the minority who didn't hold up a red card to liquidation or give to the RFFF! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I welcome punctuation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Here comes awryt dhave with his red card patter again , that's another box crossed for diddy bingo Edited October 21, 2015 by forever_blue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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