Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Yes, club and company are now separate. (The Rangers FC, owned and operated by Rangers International).Before of course they were coterminous which is why Rangers died. Hilariously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 59 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Yes, club and company are now separate. (The Rangers FC, owned and operated by Rangers International).Before of course they were coterminous which is why Rangers died. Hilariously. Club and company were never coterminous. In that respect we are in exactly the same position as most other league clubs - including Falkirk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Club and company were never coterminous. In that respect we are in exactly the same position as most other league clubs - including Falkirk.Just making stuff up again Kincy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, Tartantony said: 7 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Club and company were never coterminous. In that respect we are in exactly the same position as most other league clubs - including Falkirk. Just making stuff up again Kincy? Not at all, Tony. You, for example, will know that neither of your clubs' existences are coterminous with their associated PLCs. This has been done to death over the past 6 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 The old RFC were incorporated into a company in 1899. They therefore became indistinguishable from it. Nae luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Not at all, Tony. You, for example, will know that neither of your clubs' existences are coterminous with their associated PLCs. This has been done to death over the past 6 years.It has, the difference is I know the facts and you just make shit up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 It has, the difference is I know the facts and you just make shit up It's true though, for all our clubs at the moment.Just a pity it wasn't for old RFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Tartantony said: 25 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Not at all, Tony. You, for example, will know that neither of your clubs' existences are coterminous with their associated PLCs. This has been done to death over the past 6 years. It has, the difference is I know the facts and you just make shit up I've made nothing up. I'm also relaxed for Dumbarton's existence as a club to be coterminous with its existence as a PLC. Your fans won't be as you'd rid yourselves of league titles. 14 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: It's true though, for all our clubs at the moment. Just a pity it wasn't for old RFC. I see the problem now. You don't actually know what 'coterminous' means. You probably thought it meant, 'terminates at the same time'. It actually means, in this context, 'having the same term' (ie start and stop date). Thus the existence of Falkirk as a club is not coterminous with Falkirk's associated PLC. Edited November 18, 2018 by The_Kincardine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 After 1899 your old club was indistinguishable from its PLC. Hence it is currently IL. Your new one (TRFC) is separate from its holding company (RIFC), I grant you. Surprised you are unaware of these facts, tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I see the problem now. You don't actually know what 'coterminous' means. You probably thought it meant, 'terminates at the same time'. It actually means, in this context, 'having the same term' (ie start and stop date). Thus the existence of Falkirk as a club is not coterminous with Falkirk's associated PLC.I understand now that you're not making stuff up, you just don't understand what you're talking about. I'm interested in finding out when Dumbarton and Falkirk became PLCs. I'm struggling with that one. Maybe you're just using the term PLC incorrectly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: After 1899 your old club was indistinguishable from its PLC. Hence it is currently IL. You've abandoned 'coterminous' very quickly. I assume this is because you made a right baws of the word's use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tartantony said: I understand now that you're not making stuff up, you just don't understand what you're talking about. I'm interested in finding out when Dumbarton and Falkirk became PLCs. I'm struggling with that one. Maybe you're just using the term PLC incorrectly. 1914 and 1905. It only takes one minute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: 1914 and 1905. It only takes one minute. Oh dear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1914 and 1905. It only takes one minute.So as i thought, not using the term PLC in its correct context as it would be understood in a conversation about business. Not surprising tbh I know you like the whole club and company thing being different. Utter nonsense of course and shows a lack of understanding but I'll leave you to it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Oh dear. Who are you 'oh dearing' at Joey? Did I get that wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Who are you 'oh dearing' at Joey? Did I get that wrong? Yes. ETA: PLC=Public Limited Company. One that is listed and has publicly traded shares. Edited November 18, 2018 by Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, Tartantony said: So as i thought, not using the term PLC in its correct context as it would be understood in a conversation about business. Not surprising tbh So Dumbarton and Falkirk were not incorporated in the years mentioned? Has Companies House got it wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Yes. ETA: PLC=Public Limited Company. One that is listed and has publicly traded shares. Nope. Being a PLC does not mean that shares are traded. It has become common parlance for a listed company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Was it the same rangers before 1899? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, The_Kincardine said: Nope. Being a PLC does not mean that shares are traded. It has become common parlance for a listed company. Your parlance maybe. Not a parlance I've ever heard of, never mind about common. For example, Dumbarton aren't a plc. They are a limited company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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