cyderspaceman Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) http://www.rt.com/sp...e-football-601/ This http://www.realmadri...portal=Z8RMTE9R And this http://ca.sports.yah...cnlwYWdl;_ylv=3 Touché! Back to you. eta.....;and this , varlet. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/club/uniform-new-kit-next-season-2012-2013 Edited July 22, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Whilst accepting the point, I have difficulty with anything which closes with "this is clear and accepts no arguments". It's an eloquent way of writing FACT. Which is different from this? The club lost possession of the SPL share, not the company. The club lost it because of the actions of the company, granted, but there is a legal distinction between the club and the company, whether we want to accept it or not. That's not up for debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 Not a bad prediction from the first few pages Poz Aye, but an easy one to make. It was a certainty that any new 'Rangers' starting in Div 3 would see a TV company sniffing around. I have said the same about the red top Rangers boaby-sookers. They might be shiteing it that they can't fill column inches by fabricating foreign signing target stories any more - but if they have even an ounce of journalistic talent, they could fill pages with the Sevco story...Living the Dream, Gretna style. Without the llamas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Guys, we're getting bogged down in whether or not the history continues. For me, whether the entity that won loads over the last decade by cheating still exists right now or not, is close to irrelevant. What matters is that those honours are removed. I don't care whether that's done posthumously or not, so long as it happens. We know that Rangers fans will claim a continuation while the sentient will suggest otherwise. What should be incontestible is how many they won legitimately and that must be enshrined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Guys, we're getting bogged down in whether or not the history continues. For me, whether the entity that won loads over the last decade by cheating still exists right now or not, is close to irrelevant. What matters is that those honours are removed. I don't care whether that's done posthumously or not, so long as it happens. We know that Rangers fans will claim a continuation while the sentient will suggest otherwise. What should be incontestible is how many they won legitimately and that must be enshrined. FACT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipster Dufus Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I think I've found "The Big House must stay open" guy. He's let his hair grow but he's not as vociferous as his fellow supporters at his new Club. From Falkirk's main page - That's the bottom line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I think I've found "The Big House must stay open" guy. He's let his hair grow but he's not as vociferous as his fellow supporters at his new Club. From Falkirk's main page - Nah. That guy's minding his own business while watching his team. He doesn't deserve mockery, whereas 'Big Hoose' guy does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Sergio Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I think I've found "The Big House must stay open" guy. He's let his hair grow but he's not as vociferous as his fellow supporters at his new Club. From Falkirk's main page - That's the bottom line. Excellent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Guys, we're getting bogged down in whether or not the history continues. For me, whether the entity that won loads over the last decade by cheating still exists right now or not, is close to irrelevant. What matters is that those honours are removed. I don't care whether that's done posthumously or not, so long as it happens. We know that Rangers fans will claim a continuation while the sentient will suggest otherwise. What should be incontestible is how many they won legitimately and that must be enshrined. Sally's comments are yet more hot air and bluster from someone who should simply be ignored. There is nothing for the SFA to negotiate on. The soon-to-be defunct club are either guilty or not guilty - no inbetween - no negotiation is required. If found guilty, then natural progression is the removal of all tainted titles/trophies. There is no need to check whether anyone agrees or not. Given that McCoist's cheating b*****ds have broken so many rules, it seems blatantly obvious what the outcome will be, but we must give the panel time to consider all evidence before declaring the result. Edited July 22, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Sally's comments are yet more hot air and bluster from someone who should simply be ignored. There is nothing for the SFA to negotiate on. The soon-to-be defunct club are either guilty or not guilty - no inbetween - no negotiation is required. If found guilty, then natural progression is the removal of all tainted titles/trophies. There is no need to check whether anyone agrees or not. Given that McCoist's cheating b*****ds have broken so many rules, it seems blatantly obvious what the outcome will be, but we must give the panel time to consider all evidence before declaring the result. Indeed, but for me now that's the remaining major issue. Musings of the last couple of pages matter much less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Indeed, but for me now that's the remaining major issue. Musings of the last couple of pages matter much less. No worries MT, you will get what you want! McCoist and his followers are onto plums if they think that anyone other than themselves give a monkeys what they think or how they feel! Edited July 22, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMW Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Sorry if this has been already been brought up but looking at the upcoming live sky games there are no games listed in the spl. Don't know if they have been removed or were just never there for scheduling reasons. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12942,00.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 No worries MT, you will get what you want! McCoist and his followers are onto plums if they think that anyone other than themselves give a monkeys what they think or how they feel! I hope you're right. I just worry that it's somehow become part of some bargaining process rather than a simple and absolute case of right and wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Whilst accepting the point, I have difficulty with anything which closes with "this is clear and accepts no arguments". It's an eloquent way of writing FACT. Whilst accepting your point, I have no difficulty in allowing Gregory Ioannidis an ego big enough sign off his opinion in such a way, given his place amongst the top 20 sports lawyers in the world. Whether he is correct or not is another matter and not one for me to judge upon, I do believe however that there is scope for debate and that debate will only be settled by persons with a far greater knowledge of the subject than you or I. Could you provide me with any links to back up your claim that "there is a legal distinction between the club and the company" so that I can consider the position for myself? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Claymores Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Am I correct in remembering that fat Sal's wage for the former Rangers was £20k a week? (which will have TUPE'd) How does 3rd Div Cevco afford a mill a year for a disaster with little management skill? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 Am I correct in remembering that fat Sal's wage for the former Rangers was £20k a week? (which will have TUPE'd) How does 3rd Div Cevco afford a mill a year for a disaster with little management skill? ... and Durranty, and Kenny Mac, and keeper coach Jim Stewart, and... Is tomorrow 'redundancy Monday', with Charlie boy making the tough decisions that the dynamic administration duo didn't? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invalid Probe Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Am I correct in remembering that fat Sal's wage for the former Rangers was £20k a week? (which will have TUPE'd) How does 3rd Div Cevco afford a mill a year for a disaster with little management skill? I'm sure when there were rumblings of sally jumping ship there was a wee bit about him taking a wage cut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Good news! Leggo has written extensively about this Paul Stretford chap: http://leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/rangers-paul-stretford-and-gangsters.html Google leggoland stretford for other gems. I liked the Wikipedia page about Stretford - apparently his mob was involved in the deal that brought Capucho to Rangers. Hopefully his involvement mean Rangers fans can look forward to seeing similar stars at Ibrox. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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