Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[stonedsailor]

As far as the repping goes. I was +70ish before the big admin thread and ended up at 1 stage as -400. Some yahoo tried to have me banned as my Rep was so low

There is no 'Good No.8' or 'Horrible No.8'...There is only me. If you don't agree with what i say fine but i am still going to say it. There are people who tirelessly quoted disgraced bigoted Lawyers and Failed bigoted Social workers and i spoke up against them...for that i will never apologise. When criticism is justified we have to man up and take it. I often did throughout this whole sorry saga but when bigots are attacking our club and posting and printing lies then we have to stand up and defend our club.

Aye, fair play to you. Where were all your club mates then?

[Bendarroch]

Did you support the old club too? The one that is going to have it's titles stripped? Or did you just get into football recently when your club were conceived?

I support The Rangers son.

[Bendarroch]

Maybe we should get tickets and go along and protest at the midden about Phil and his views, Free speech Free country and all that

It's interesting (in the article linked to by dhensebhore) that Phail references a conversation with Turnbull Hutton - I wonder if it ever happened.

[~~~]

I support The Rangers son.

Is that your next name for the club already?

[No8.]

Aye, fair play to you. Where were all your club mates then?

There were quite a few on that thread...in fact it is this thread and there are a few on right now.

Where have all the 'Other' clubs supporters gone? You know the ones i mean...The ones that said we would be playing in front of less than 10,000. The ones that said we would have Lee McCulloch and 10 kids playing. The ones that said there would be no Rangers at all. The ones that said nobody would buy the club....I could go on but you get the point

I hate to sound like a bit of a smug triumphalist but i was proven mostly correct...In fact even i have been surprised at just how well we seem to be doing both on and off the park.

[No8.]

How's it go again... ?

Too long didn't read.

As for the discussion about the final verdict.. I believe Rangers football club (Not the company)should be expelled from the Scottish leagues "IF" found guilty of their various crimes. Given the much scrambling about of the SFA & SPL to secure A Rangers, I doubt anything will be done to properly punish the club.

How's it go?

Usual bollocks. Unfortunately i did read

[Bairnforever1992]

Tick tock, tick tock, 5 days left for the BDO to end Sevcoland.

[Double Jack D]

I support The Rangers son clone.

[stonedsailor]

[FinnesTON]

There were quite a few on that thread...in fact it is this thread and there are a few on right now.

Where have all the 'Other' clubs supporters gone? You know the ones i mean...The ones that said we would be playing in front of less than 10,000. The ones that said we would have Lee McCulloch and 10 kids playing. The ones that said there would be no Rangers at all. The ones that said nobody would buy the club....I could go on but you get the point

I hate to sound like a bit of a smug triumphalist but i was proven mostly correct...In fact even i have been surprised at just how well we seem to be doing both on and off the park.

Thats the laughable punishment given, a transfer embargo that commenced after the transfer window closed. That piece of compromise advertises clearly the authorities flexible attitude towards the zombie infestation. Yes that riles the sense of fair play.

Clubs have been dismissed from competitions for genuine errors in registering players without sympathy, Sevco have been handed a joker by allowing them to sign players at this juncture.

Given the amount of leeway given to artificial Rangers we know that the outcome of the double contracts will see another fudge that will highlight the concessions given to Sevco The Rangers throughout these investigations. The worst case of rule breaking within or games history which should have been adjudged before your new club ever kicked another ball.

I have an option for the titles why not let you keep them as long as it also state clearly these were won over the period by evading tax and using double contracts which amounted to 10 years of just short of match fixing. Another compromise.

Edited September 6, 2012 by FinnesTON

[zurcher]

And while we're at it can we also desist from that dreadful 'text speak'(i.e. 'ffs')?

Yours sincerely,

The Grammar and Spelling Inspectorate.

Haha fair point, well made. Although tbf I am typing on phone ffs.

[No8.]

Thats the laughable punishment given, a transfer embargo that commenced after the transfer window closed. That piece of compromise advertises clearly the authorities flexible attitude towards the zombie infestation. Yes that riles the sense of fair play.

You mean fair play was when they tried to force Rangers into accepting an illegal transfer embargo ?

I agree the SFA/SPL have handled this situation dreadfully. The worst was when they tried to bully the SFL into putting Rangers into SFL 1. That was to benefit nobody but the SPL. We as a support were never going to accept that. We were never going to accept being put into the SPL with points and /or financial penalties. There was only 1 place we wanted to be and that was the SFL 3.

Instead of this continued bickering it is important that ALL supporters of current SFL clubs get the message over to their club chairmen that we will not accept Rangers being fast tracked into the SPL via a new league set up. People like you are walking around blinkered by your hatred of Rangers.. open your eyes and see we don't want any special treatment...We accept our wrong doing and will accept the punishments we have had and may receive. I'll be honest i NEVER want to have any part of the SPL again but realise that is unrealistic and that we will 1 day be promoted back into that league but the only way i will swallow that bitter pill is if we achieve it on the football pitch fairly!

All the gerrymandering that has been attempted has been to suit the clubs in the SPL and their precious TV deal that means so much to them.

[PeeTeeJag]

Bocanegra deal not went through yet.

Maybe going back to SevCo. Fans welcoming the possible news.

I wonder if Green is so happy about his wage coming back with him?

[Bairnforever1992]

What will happen when the BDO comes in at Ibrox, do they take one of the players wages as a way to pay back to the creditors, including the stadium and Murray Park?

[Mad Capsule]

The Loch Ness monster is alive. Santa is also going to give Bigfoot to the Tooth Fairy for Christmas this year. And Avatar is perhaps the greatest documentary ever made.

Sevco

54 and counting and don't you forget it son.

I have seen this line from SevCo fans so many times in this thread I am beginning to think that if someone typed 54 and counting into the search function, it might cause the website to crash.

This is a poor rebuttal and I'm sick of seeing it.

Get as much use out of it as you can for the next 5 days.

Edited September 6, 2012 by Mad Capsule

[zurcher]

You mean fair play was when they tried to force Rangers into accepting an illegal transfer embargo ?

I agree the SFA/SPL have handled this situation dreadfully. The worst was when they tried to bully the SFL into putting Rangers into SFL 1. That was to benefit nobody but the SPL. We as a support were never going to accept that. We were never going to accept being put into the SPL with points and /or financial penalties. There was only 1 place we wanted to be and that was the SFL 3.

Instead of this continued bickering it is important that ALL supporters of current SFL clubs get the message over to their club chairmen that we will not accept Rangers being fast tracked into the SPL via a new league set up. People like you are walking around blinkered by your hatred of Rangers.. open your eyes and see we don't want any special treatment...We accept our wrong doing and will accept the punishments we have had and may receive. I'll be honest i NEVER want to have any part of the SPL again but realise that is unrealistic and that we will 1 day be promoted back into that league but the only way i will swallow that bitter pill is if we achieve it on the football pitch fairly!

All the gerrymandering that has been attempted has been to suit the clubs in the SPL and their precious TV deal that means so much to them.

I think you'll find that's exactly what we did, letter were written, emails sent, phone calls made telling everyone concerned as plainly as possible that to bend the rules to allow a bunch of bankrupt cheats back into the league debt free wasn't going to be tolerated. The club chairmen got the message and the result is Sevco are in SFL3.

But when we were doing this all we got from you (I mean the collective you as in fans of Dead Rangers/Sevco) was how we were all bigots who hated Rangers fans and were blinded by our hatred.

It's been stated before many, many times, but let's just get this clear - the only single punishment Rangers got for going into administration was the pishy 10 point deduction. The fine and transfer ban for was applied as the ONLY OTHER OPTION was to suspend or expel you from the league, it may have been an illegal punishment in that it wasn't a proper option for them, but you were found guilty of blatant cheating to the point where the only thing worse was actual conspiracy to fix matches. The fine and transfer ban was only another desperate attempt by the footballing authorities to do whatever they could to keep Rangers/Sevco alive when they should have booted you. Charlie One Suit took them to feckin court over it, the utter scumbag that he is. That is against all football rules, and Sevco should have been kicked out there and then, but again, no, in desperation to keep you lot going, they negotiate the terms of the ban and the fine, and allow you to make full use of this summer's transfer window, bending over backwards for the umpteenth time to help Rangers/Sevco, and you ungrateful swines do nothing but moan about how everyone hates you and everyone is bigoted against you and how you've been punished enough and blah blah blah.

Many of us do hate you, yes, but it's the attitude described above that causes the hate - the utter lack of any awareness of how lucky you are still to have a club to support, the utter lack of any humility after years and years of cheating, the utter lack of acknowledgement of the help and support you got from the Scottish football authorities at every step of the way, the desperation to blame it all on one little crook when the whole organisation has been crooked for years, the feckin unbelievably ridiculous sense of entitlement, and almost worst of all, the feckin ridiculous hubris to try to claim that you don't want any special treatment when you've been demanding it, and getting it, all along!

But you will all go on claiming THE establishment club, the organisation who cheated and stole and shamed themselves again and again, the club which is demonstrably dead, is only hated because it's successful and you're feckin hanging on to those 54 titles in your new form, watp.

And yes, I seethe.

[beermonkey]

I think you'll find that's exactly what we did, letter were written, emails sent, phone calls made telling everyone concerned as plainly as possible that to bend the rules to allow a bunch of bankrupt cheats back into the league debt free wasn't going to be tolerated. The club chairmen got the message and the result is Sevco are in SFL3.

But when we were doing this all we got from you (I mean the collective you as in fans of Dead Rangers/Sevco) was how we were all bigots who hated Rangers fans and were blinded by our hatred.

It's been stated before many, many times, but let's just get this clear - the only single punishment Rangers got for going into administration was the pishy 10 point deduction. The fine and transfer ban for was applied as the ONLY OTHER OPTION was to suspend or expel you from the league, it may have been an illegal punishment in that it wasn't a proper option for them, but you were found guilty of blatant cheating to the point where the only thing worse was actual conspiracy to fix matches. The fine and transfer ban was only another desperate attempt by the footballing authorities to do whatever they could to keep Rangers/Sevco alive when they should have booted you. Charlie One Suit took them to feckin court over it, the utter scumbag that he is. That is against all football rules, and Sevco should have been kicked out there and then, but again, no, in desperation to keep you lot going, they negotiate the terms of the ban and the fine, and allow you to make full use of this summer's transfer window, bending over backwards for the umpteenth time to help Rangers/Sevco, and you ungrateful swines do nothing but moan about how everyone hates you and everyone is bigoted against you and how you've been punished enough and blah blah blah.

Many of us do hate you, yes, but it's the attitude described above that causes the hate - the utter lack of any awareness of how lucky you are still to have a club to support, the utter lack of any humility after years and years of cheating, the utter lack of acknowledgement of the help and support you got from the Scottish football authorities at every step of the way, the desperation to blame it all on one little crook when the whole organisation has been crooked for years, the feckin unbelievably ridiculous sense of entitlement, and almost worst of all, the feckin ridiculous hubris to try to claim that you don't want any special treatment when you've been demanding it, and getting it, all along!

But you will all go on claiming THE establishment club, the organisation who cheated and stole and shamed themselves again and again, the club which is demonstrably dead, is only hated because it's successful and you're feckin hanging on to those 54 titles in your new form, watp.

And yes, I seethe.

Well said sir...have a greenie for that, especially the bit in bold.

[No8.]

I think you'll find that's exactly what we did, letter were written, emails sent, phone calls made telling everyone concerned as plainly as possible that to bend the rules to allow a bunch of bankrupt cheats back into the league debt free wasn't going to be tolerated. The club chairmen got the message and the result is Sevco are in SFL3.

But when we were doing this all we got from you (I mean the collective you as in fans of Dead Rangers/Sevco) was how we were all bigots who hated Rangers fans and were blinded by our hatred.

It's been stated before many, many times, but let's just get this clear - the only single punishment Rangers got for going into administration was the pishy 10 point deduction. The fine and transfer ban for was applied as the ONLY OTHER OPTION was to suspend or expel you from the league, it may have been an illegal punishment in that it wasn't a proper option for them, but you were found guilty of blatant cheating to the point where the only thing worse was actual conspiracy to fix matches. The fine and transfer ban was only another desperate attempt by the footballing authorities to do whatever they could to keep Rangers/Sevco alive when they should have booted you. Charlie One Suit took them to feckin court over it, the utter scumbag that he is. That is against all football rules, and Sevco should have been kicked out there and then, but again, no, in desperation to keep you lot going, they negotiate the terms of the ban and the fine, and allow you to make full use of this summer's transfer window, bending over backwards for the umpteenth time to help Rangers/Sevco, and you ungrateful swines do nothing but moan about how everyone hates you and everyone is bigoted against you and how you've been punished enough and blah blah blah.

Many of us do hate you, yes, but it's the attitude described above that causes the hate - the utter lack of any awareness of how lucky you are still to have a club to support, the utter lack of any humility after years and years of cheating, the utter lack of acknowledgement of the help and support you got from the Scottish football authorities at every step of the way, the desperation to blame it all on one little crook when the whole organisation has been crooked for years, the feckin unbelievably ridiculous sense of entitlement, and almost worst of all, the feckin ridiculous hubris to try to claim that you don't want any special treatment when you've been demanding it, and getting it, all along!

But you will all go on claiming THE establishment club, the organisation who cheated and stole and shamed themselves again and again, the club which is demonstrably dead, is only hated because it's successful and you're feckin hanging on to those 54 titles in your new form, watp.

And yes, I seethe.

Absolute and utter nonsense. It is factually inaccurate from start to finish...Never mind your wee diddy pals lapped it up.

[Bairnforever1992]

All i have to say is Tick tock, thats the message they will find guilty and it is criminal for a club to avoid tax in 20 years. Yet sevco fans seems to panic and tries to save their cheated club to extinction, 5 days to go tick tock.

[Highland Dogma]

I know some rangers fans hate being asked financial questions even to the point of insulting those who do astoundingly tho some of us on the interweb have got business experience and do know how to read a p & l and there is a fundamental lack of sustainability to the newco business model. I keep reading all is well cos of 37000 st sales and. reduced costs....ok let's actually look at that...st sales then come in at roughly nine n quarter million Ish...minus vat which I'm assuming newco will actually pay..lets call it seven n half million ...which doesn't even cover the losses when tax and ni were being dodged and money from Europe TV and spl boosted revenue.but but costs have been cut...but by how much tho?? Dnp cut player payroll by seventy five per cent and still oldco lost millions! Has the payroll really been cut by that much?? Anyone got verifiable figures? Can't see other costs like tax ni business rates water rates utilities policing insurance pitch maintenance building maintenance costs of goods ie suppliers and contractors services being cut in any way...yes seven n bit million is enough working capital to last a few months but its nowhere near enough to cover costs for a business that size in long term..it just isn't. Until rangers fans really address this instead of worrying about titles ebts etc they are going to let green rob them of their club