youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Regardless of this "judgement" the whole of the footballing world knows what went on. Unaffordable players were paid through a tax scam, some of whom were improperly registered, some maybe sanctioned by the current SFA president, and this financial wizardry eventually killed the club formerly known as Rangers. We have a situation now where the club formerly known as Sevco is now plying its trade because of a favour granted by the other SFL clubs by voting them into the league, thus avoiding the usual qualification criteria, and is about to win its first ever trophy. This new club are trying to claim the good parts of the history of the old club, and deny, deflect or ignore the bad parts and there has been no hint of contrition, humility or apology about the shenanigans the old club got up to. To all intents and purposes they fucked up Scottish football and don't care as long as some sort of team is playing at the old stadium. What this new club's supporters don't realise is that they were conned as much as the rest of us, and no matter how many witty, or otherwise, comebacks they might throw out to the rest of us, they all know that they were wrong, they all know that the old club is dead and buried and a bunch of squatters are in the grave trying to kid on they are still the same. We all know it's not. Over time we will just get used to the fact that they are still the same bunch of supporters with the same attitude and we have all missed a chance to make things better. There will no doubt be some legalese explanation of how this or that didn't get applied, and ultimately it doesn't matter. All it's done is saved the SFA and SPL a lot of headaches about what to do with record books and how to deal with the angry hordes if it had gone down the route of changing match results, tournament expulsion and ultimately the loss of trophies from the record books. The old club is still dead. Those associated with the new club will be shouting for evermore about how "wur no a new club". The rest of us will just remember the last decade or so as being tainted by one club, and one club alone. And yet another one spewing.Accept the finding and try to move on. The Commission in their legal wisdom have ruled,no cheating involved, so it really does not matter what you or anyone thinks, you're irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 So Rangers did nothing wrong, Learn to read. They have been found guilty of not fully disclosing all relevant paper work. The players were properly registered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsene Parcelie Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 HEYYY TIMMY WE'RE HAVING A PARTY! Nothing more vile and corrupt than the sweeping that went on with your club and the powers that be. We welcome the chase. You fill your boots. I'm glad you are enjoying your current status in the game. Throughout your club's illustrious history you always were, and always will be known as Sevco. I'm sure your first title celebrations will be superb and all your songs will be appropriate for the occasion and many of your P&B mates will congratulate you for being such a gracious winner, and dignified loser (when the occasion arises). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 And all this confirmed by LNS (3) Rangers FC was liable to sanctions as provided by the Rules in the event of a breach while it was owned and operated by Oldco; and (4) There were sanctions which could be imposed in terms of the Rules which were capable of affecting Rangers FC as a continuing entity now owned and operated by Newco. Fooking marvellous day Don't show them that,Tedi,they're upset enough as it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nae luck GiGi. LNS is fucking with your minds on this great day. Same club - no titles taken. Don't just pick out the words that suit you. "There were sanctions which could be imposed in terms of the Rules which were capable of affecting Rangers FC as a continuing entity" It didn't explicitly say they are. Either way it's amusing that they handed a fine to a defunct club with no money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Learn to read. They have been found guilty of not fully disclosing all relevant paper work. The players were properly registered. LOL, wot? And fined quarter of a million for it? Stop kidding yourselves this verdict is anything less than a surrender to thuggery. "We're not fining them for cheating, we're fining them for, um, missing paperwork, um, yes, that's what it is, and let that be a lesson to them!" Edited February 28, 2013 by WaffenThinMint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cement Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Don't really give a monkeys about this but I bet Spartans are spewing over this bit? Later in the report, the reasons for deeming players not ineligible is outlined. It states that if a player was incorrectly registered, his registration was not subject to immediate termination and a process had to be undertaken for it to be revoked. "[Mr McKenzie, SPL lawyer] accepted no provision of the rules enabled the board of the SPL retrospectively to terminate the registration of the player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 LOL, wot? And fined quarter of a million for it? Stop kidding yourselves this verdict is anything less than a surrender to thuggery. Keeping me entertained today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Don't really give a monkeys about this but I bet Spartans are spewing over this bit? Later in the report, the reasons for deeming players not ineligible is outlined. It states that if a player was incorrectly registered, his registration was not subject to immediate termination and a process had to be undertaken for it to be revoked. "[Mr McKenzie, SPL lawyer] accepted no provision of the rules enabled the board of the SPL retrospectively to terminate the registration of the player. So basically they got off with that because the SPL were too late to do anything about it? A momentus victory for Sevco indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 You fill your boots. I'm glad you are enjoying your current status in the game. Throughout your club's illustrious history you always were, and always will be known as Sevco. I'm sure your first title celebrations will be superb and all your songs will be appropriate for the occasion and many of your P&B mates will congratulate you for being such a gracious winner, and dignified loser (when the occasion arises). Dry your eyes,for fucks sake and be man enough to accept the SPL Commission finding as just,accept the EBT finding as just and try,really try,and accept that the club continuity is ongoing since 1872. You'll feel better for it,instead of allowing bitterness against a club tear you up inside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_titles_and_still_going_ Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 54 titles....and Still going strong! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 This 'victory' chat is quality. They are in the third division 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Oh dear oh dear. Now its surrendering the nazis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 So though were unable to fine the new club because they are seperate from the old club? Thanks for clearing that up. Also STV says that charless greens newco who purchased THE ASSETS won't need to pay anything. There deid :lol: :lol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 On Saturday 4 men had a dream should get sung for the whole 90 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Can this day get any better? LNS confirms continuation (3) Rangers FC was liable to sanctions as provided by the Rules in the event of a breach while it was owned and operated by Oldco; and (4) There were sanctions which could be imposed in terms of the Rules which were capable of affecting Rangers FC as a continuing entity now owned and operated by Newco. Yes. Yes it could. Firstly, I'm looking forward to Rico, Helbhore and flying ratbhoy rearing their heads. Secondly - now inevitably, surely - the start of the 'integrity' campaign from the self-same fuds who threatened to boycott their own clubs last summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm no up for another year of: "You cheated". "Naw we didnae". ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 So though were unable to fine the new club because they are seperate from the old club? Thanks for clearing that up. Also STV says that charless greens newco who purchased THE ASSETS won't need to pay anything. There deid :lol: :lol: Still getting confused by a club and a company, don't let your SEETHE tell you otherwise though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Po119 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Sevco fans seem very upbeat despite the fact Oldco died for nothing and they now have to watch a team filled with utter shite in red, white and blue every week, playing on ploughed fields in small towns. So, so harrowing for them. Those in the SPL are still pissing themselves over it. Yes, it is sad that our club was sent to the Third Division for what turned out to be no reason. But I'm much happier knowing that 1) We are debt free. 2) We have been found FOR in the Big Tax Case. 3) We have been found FOR in today's tribunal. 4) We have been allowed to keep our titles and 5) LNS has agreed that this is the same club as it was 10 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Still getting confused by a club and a company, don't let your SEETHE tell you otherwise though. So in this vein you think clubs and the titles they have won can be bought and traded? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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