bennett Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Walter and Campbell enjoy a handshake last night, if only rebel was not banned. You can see Walter winking at Campbell, obviously they've both been conspiring together to ...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 We get it, you a have mobile phone. whoopy f**kingdoo. It's automatic, you dimwit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerbelle Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Is this thread still going !! Sent from my 3 seater sofa using a wee plastic pen thingy on my iPad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Is this thread still going !! Sent from my 3 seater sofa using a wee plastic pen thingy on my iPad. Yes !! Sent through the ether by mind waves alone as I'm one of The X Men. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray_of_licht Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It's automatic, you dimwit. You can delete that bit before replying. But in our hectic lifestyles who has the time for that? Sent from the moon using semaphore 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Personally, I do not think English skills count for much on a Scottish fitbaw forum. Why? This is a written medium. I'd agree that English qualifications aren't important in themselves. The abilities to analyse complex information and express yourself clearly are pretty essential on here though, given that we're attempting to communicate with each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Why? This is a written medium. I'd agree that English qualifications aren't important in themselves. The abilities to analyse complex information and express yourself clearly are pretty essential on here though, given that we're attempting to communicate with each other. It's a fitba forum, we have a laugh, some banter and score some points. Anyone making a big deal out of typing or spellng skills usually comes across as being a bit fuddish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It's a fitba forum, we have a laugh, some banter and score some points. Anyone making a big deal out of typing or spellng skills usually comes across as being a bit fuddish. Well obviously, errors are allowed. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to express themselves clearly and carefully though. It's simply a question of courtesy. People who can write well, are better to read. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Well obviously, errors are allowed. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to express themselves clearly and carefully though. It's simply a question of courtesy. People who can write well, are better to read. If you feel the need to pick over every word and spell check everything then fair enough. Too much hassle for me, take me as i am or GTF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Thought this might be of interest to you - http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/how-rangers-landing-in-sfl3-costs-glasgow-over-400k-per-annum/ April 30, 2013 · 8:38 am How Rangers Landing in SFL3 “Costs” Glasgow over 400k per annumYou’ll notice I have not ended the headline above with an exclamation. That’s because it is entirely legitimate and indeed prudent what the company has done. We are talking about non-domestic rates. Come back! It’s not that dull! First thing is first. Glasgow City Council believes that Ibrox is owned by Rangers Football Club Ltd (the former Sevco Scotland Ltd). Why do they say that? Because Rangers Football Club Ltd DOES own those assets! Moving on… Rates are levied on business premises based on a notional rental income or rateable value (RV) which the Assessor determines for each property, based on various factors, including the value of similar premises. When a revaluation occurs, and the last one was effective on 1st April 2010, there are floods of appeals lodged. A business can also appeal where there has been a “material change of circumstances”. That is what Rangers Football Club Ltd (formerly Sevco Scotland Ltd) did. Glasgow City Council’s register lists that company, not RIFC PLC or even Sevco 5088 Ltd, as owner. The RV for Ibrox was just under £2 million, at £1,916,000. It is now exactly £1 million. As the “rate” payable this year is 46.2p in the pound, the liability has dropped by around £423,000 per annum. The “material change of circumstances” was the change from being an SPL team to an SFL3 one with the associated drop in income. In fact, as rates were not paid up to date under Mr Whyte nor whilst the owner was insolvent and in administration, the Council will be delighted to be paid, I am sure. When Hamilton was relegated 2 years ago its RV reduced by over two-thirds, from £62,500 to £20,500. Its rates bill dropped by around £16,000 per year. However Dunfermline, relegated last year, have not seen a drop in RV nor does it seem to have appealed. The RV of East End Park is still £37,500. Maybe in a small way the apparent failure to seek a reduction explains why that club is in administration! Where does Ibrox stand in the lists of RVs for sporting subjects? First of all it must be recognised that we are not comparing like with like. A football stadium containing retail outlets, function suites and restaurants will be liable for far more than a ground with a pitch and little else. The fact that RV depends on notional rent chargeable and that this in turn is a function of income generated means that the gross imbalances in Scottish football can be laid bare. Can you guess what “sporting subjects” have the highest RV in Scotland? … … … Murrayfield – £2,250,000 Celtic Park – £1,995,000 Hampden – £1,100,000 Ibrox – £1,000,000 Murray Park – £598,500 Celtic’s training facility at Lennoxtown – £398,000 Meadowbank Stadium – £365,000 We then have a gap until:- Ayr Racecourse – £280,000 Tynecastle -£224,000 Easter Road – £215,000 Pittodrie – £206,000 By contrast Cliftonhill, home of the Wee Rovers, has an RV of £2,450. The RV for Murray Park did not fall on demotion, presumably on the basis that the change of league did not affect the notional rental income. However there is still an ongoing appeal so, in due course, Rangers might be successful in reducing the rates bill for Murray Park too. Ironically, having commented that Glasgow City Council lists Rangers Football Club Ltd as correct owner of Ibrox, East Dunbartonshire Council do not do the same for Murray Park. Instead it lists Rangers Football Club PLC as owner. Either this is a typo (which is easy enough to do) or the records have not been updated. Either way it means little. Coming back to the “costs” to Glasgow, it could be argued, in fact, that there has been financial advantage. I suspect that policing levels at and around Ibrox on match days are down from SPL days. Especially so for Rangers v Celtic matches! However the number of fans attending has not dropped too much, so a similar amount of money comes in to the Glasgow economy when Rangers play at home. So, top line, the rates bill goes down – bottom line – at least it will now be getting paid! And maybe this piece was that dull after all! Posted by Paul McConville 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Thought this might be of interest to you - http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/how-rangers-landing-in-sfl3-costs-glasgow-over-400k-per-annum/ April 30, 2013 · 8:38 am How Rangers Landing in SFL3 “Costs” Glasgow over 400k per annumYou’ll notice I have not ended the headline above with an exclamation. That’s because it is entirely legitimate and indeed prudent what the company has done. We are talking about non-domestic rates. Come back! It’s not that dull! First thing is first. Glasgow City Council believes that Ibrox is owned by Rangers Football Club Ltd (the former Sevco Scotland Ltd). Why do they say that? Because Rangers Football Club Ltd DOES own those assets! Moving on… Rates are levied on business premises based on a notional rental income or rateable value (RV) which the Assessor determines for each property, based on various factors, including the value of similar premises. When a revaluation occurs, and the last one was effective on 1st April 2010, there are floods of appeals lodged. A business can also appeal where there has been a “material change of circumstances”. That is what Rangers Football Club Ltd (formerly Sevco Scotland Ltd) did. Glasgow City Council’s register lists that company, not RIFC PLC or even Sevco 5088 Ltd, as owner. The RV for Ibrox was just under £2 million, at £1,916,000. It is now exactly £1 million. As the “rate” payable this year is 46.2p in the pound, the liability has dropped by around £423,000 per annum. The “material change of circumstances” was the change from being an SPL team to an SFL3 one with the associated drop in income. In fact, as rates were not paid up to date under Mr Whyte nor whilst the owner was insolvent and in administration, the Council will be delighted to be paid, I am sure. When Hamilton was relegated 2 years ago its RV reduced by over two-thirds, from £62,500 to £20,500. Its rates bill dropped by around £16,000 per year. However Dunfermline, relegated last year, have not seen a drop in RV nor does it seem to have appealed. The RV of East End Park is still £37,500. Maybe in a small way the apparent failure to seek a reduction explains why that club is in administration! Where does Ibrox stand in the lists of RVs for sporting subjects? First of all it must be recognised that we are not comparing like with like. A football stadium containing retail outlets, function suites and restaurants will be liable for far more than a ground with a pitch and little else. The fact that RV depends on notional rent chargeable and that this in turn is a function of income generated means that the gross imbalances in Scottish football can be laid bare. Can you guess what “sporting subjects” have the highest RV in Scotland? … … … Murrayfield – £2,250,000 Celtic Park – £1,995,000 Hampden – £1,100,000 Ibrox – £1,000,000 Murray Park – £598,500 Celtic’s training facility at Lennoxtown – £398,000 Meadowbank Stadium – £365,000 We then have a gap until:- Ayr Racecourse – £280,000 Tynecastle -£224,000 Easter Road – £215,000 Pittodrie – £206,000 By contrast Cliftonhill, home of the Wee Rovers, has an RV of £2,450. The RV for Murray Park did not fall on demotion, presumably on the basis that the change of league did not affect the notional rental income. However there is still an ongoing appeal so, in due course, Rangers might be successful in reducing the rates bill for Murray Park too. Ironically, having commented that Glasgow City Council lists Rangers Football Club Ltd as correct owner of Ibrox, East Dunbartonshire Council do not do the same for Murray Park. Instead it lists Rangers Football Club PLC as owner. Either this is a typo (which is easy enough to do) or the records have not been updated. Either way it means little. Coming back to the “costs” to Glasgow, it could be argued, in fact, that there has been financial advantage. I suspect that policing levels at and around Ibrox on match days are down from SPL days. Especially so for Rangers v Celtic matches! However the number of fans attending has not dropped too much, so a similar amount of money comes in to the Glasgow economy when Rangers play at home. So, top line, the rates bill goes down – bottom line – at least it will now be getting paid! And maybe this piece was that dull after all! Posted by Paul McConville Imagine even posting something McConville said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 That was in the papers months ago about our rates being reduced, another scoopt by the credible lawyer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 That was in the papers months ago about our rates being reduced, another scoopt by the credible lawyer. Good job we wont be playing his team Albion Rovers next season eh lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Too much hassle for me, take me as i am or GTF. Why are you being a bit of a tool tonight Bennett? Everything alright? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Are the accounts not due out soon??????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Why are you being a bit of a tool tonight Bennett? Everything alright? I thought he was always like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I thought he was always like that. How would you know? You only joined near the end of March. ^ ^ ^ ^ Previously banned poster IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 How would you know? You only joined near the end of March. ^ ^ ^ ^ Previously banned poster IMO. Sublime use of irony there, Chris. I like it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
As We Rise Again Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Sublime use of irony there, Chris. I like it Ye talking about tongue fetish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Ye talking about tongue fetish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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