Apache Don Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 It would make a rangers fans eyes bleed. It was a true feast for my eyes and made my heart soar like an eagle. Ashoge, Captain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 yup, but there's no evidence to counter it, just loads and loads and loads saying it isn't a continuation loads There are two rulings on the point of player registrations which prove no footballing continuation. The first being the FIFA ruling on international clearance for Rangers' registered players to transfer without compensation, the second being the SFA appointed independent panel's ruling that the right of appeal by the club against FIFA's decision lodged with the SFA did not continue with the transfer of assets and membership according to the articles of association. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There are two rulings on the point of player registrations which prove no footballing continuation. The first being the FIFA ruling on international clearance for Rangers' registered players to transfer without compensation, the second being the SFA appointed independent panel's ruling that the right of appeal by the club against FIFA's decision lodged with the SFA did not continue with the transfer of assets and membership according to the articles of association. so what we are really really really trying to say here is that they aren't the same team... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 It would make a rangers fans eyes bleed. Could you edit it into a more readable format? I can't be arsed reading a gazillion words in one paragraph either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Of course it's a new club. Surely you all remember. Rangers cheated, then they died. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 On Lee Rigby, good stuff from Kincardine; pretty bloody despicable stuff from Wunfellaff. Get a grip. Meh. I "may" have been taken by a shop but they shouldn't have been there. Re charlotte and the good stuff...... Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakesAs part of the deal EBT Trial and Costs were assigned to OldCo = Creditor Shafting by the Football Authorities. BDO should reject outright. 1 Sep 13 Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakesThe Rangers didn't need to accept any penalties from the authorities. Any team playing out of Ibrox would have walked straight into SFL3. 1 Sep 13 Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakesHowever as a newco they would not have been permitted to play as a variant of Rangers. Craig Whyte was key to this whole charade. He was > 1 Sep 13 Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakesbought off by Imran/Charles, although they bumped him after publicly being outed. The Rangers had to accept a form of punishment in order to 1 Sep 13 Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakescontinue with this illusion of being the exact same club. Charles and Imran were willing participants, the fans were the victims all along. 1 Sep 13 Charlotte Fakeovers@CharlotteFakesThose who were instrumental in requesting this document remained confidential should all be charged with bringing the game into disrepute. It's getting messy. And tip. I've never been able to see the scribd stuff until I twigged yesterday that afore you click the link, goto internet settings, untick mobile view, goto doc and can even download pdf. Untick mobile view and go back. Easypeasy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 But, but, but, racist no.8 had told us they were 'forced' to accept an 'illegal' transfer ban. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Meh. I "may" have been taken by a shop but they shouldn't have been there. Your comments and posting of the other version of the poster were the problems. I agree that the whole hijacking of what happened to Lee Rigby, as some sort of cause, by Rangers fans is hugely distasteful. You went much much further though by mocking what befell him as a means of having a dig at Rangers. There are far better ways of attacking them than this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Your comments and posting of the other version of the poster were the problems. I agree that the whole hijacking of what happened to Lee Rigby, as some sort of cause, by Rangers fans is hugely distasteful. You went much much further though by mocking what befell him as a means of having a dig at Rangers. There are far better ways of attacking them than this. Both 'posters' were faked and Wunf loves being controversial, it's what he does. Best not to take his bait imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Could you edit it into a more readable format? I can't be arsed reading a gazillion words in one paragraph either. Sorry just cpd it...long winded but wipes the floor with the zombies http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/the-death-of-rangers-fc-guest-post-by-johnbhoy/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry SFA we don't want that punishment, so f**k you Good ole Charlotte.... The only reason i can think of for CF bringing this 5 way agreement back up again is so that we dwell on it rather than chase the current regime out of power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Meh. I "may" have been taken by a shop but they shouldn't have been there. Re charlotte and the good stuff...... It's getting messy. And tip. I've never been able to see the scribd stuff until I twigged yesterday that afore you click the link, goto internet settings, untick mobile view, goto doc and can even download pdf. Untick mobile view and go back. Easypeasy. Nothing new there it's always been the general consensus that the punishments were a smokescreen to keep the fans off the scent whilst also allowing football clubs to minimise losses and for the SPL & SFA to get in on the action through fines originally levied at the old club having to be paid by the new club's inherited fans. Everyone wanted a piece of the pie. The fans are still feeding them. Why else manufacture a false continuation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry just cpd it...long winded but wipes the floor with the zombies http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/the-death-of-rangers-fc-guest-post-by-johnbhoy/ It's a very good summary of this thread, without all the off topic stuff, character assassination, meltdowns and tear stained pish (sic) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There are those who maintain... ... but that is for another blog! A bit of a slog, but I got there. A couple of things: it would be more convincing if things like UEFA were spelt properly. Recognition that the SPL had 12 teams latterly, would also avoid the problem presented by suggesting that 10+4=16. Much of it is fairly convincing though, in outlining why legally, Rangers death was total. The stuff on Leeds was interesting. The idea of history carrying on for them would be, as with Rangers, pretty significant given their achievements in the 60s/70s. The subtle differences between the circumstances is explained well here. What of Middlesborough though - another one Rangers fans often cite? Their earlier history was less glorious, but still had highlights - Brian Clough, Graeme Souness etc. I know that their badge until fairly recently had '1986' on it, suggesting relaxation about being new. Were the old club officially liquidated in the way Rangers have been? Are they regarded as new, in the same way that Darlington are by the authorities? Just interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Both 'posters' were faked and Wunf loves being controversial, it's what he does. Best not to take his bait imo. I'm sure you're right. Using what happened in Greenwich as 'bait' is the bit I don't like though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) A bit of a slog, but I got there. A couple of things: it would be more convincing if things like UEFA were spelt properly. Recognition that the SPL had 12 teams latterly, would also avoid the problem presented by suggesting that 10+4=16. Much of it is fairly convincing though, in outlining why legally, Rangers death was total. The stuff on Leeds was interesting. The idea of history carrying on for them would be, as with Rangers, pretty significant given their achievements in the 60s/70s. The subtle differences between the circumstances is explained well here. What of Middlesborough though - another one Rangers fans often cite? Their earlier history was less glorious, but still had highlights - Brian Clough, Graeme Souness etc. I know that their badge until fairly recently had '1986' on it, suggesting relaxation about being new. Were the old club officially liquidated in the way Rangers have been? Are they regarded as new, in the same way that Darlington are by the authorities? Just interested. Middlesborough just decidedto change the date on their badge and no-one protested, they stole the old club's history whilst no-one was looking. After all they are just meaningless numbers used as a marketing ploy in the same way some clubs use meaningless stars as a marketing ploy. Edited September 1, 2013 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 A bit of a slog, but I got there. A couple of things: it would be more convincing if things like UEFA were spelt properly. Recognition that the SPL had 12 teams latterly, would also avoid the problem presented by suggesting that 10+4=16. Much of it is fairly convincing though, in outlining why legally, Rangers death was total. The stuff on Leeds was interesting. The idea of history carrying on for them would be, as with Rangers, pretty significant given their achievements in the 60s/70s. The subtle differences between the circumstances is explained well here. What of Middlesborough though - another one Rangers fans often cite? Their earlier history was less glorious, but still had highlights - Brian Clough, Graeme Souness etc. I know that their badge until fairly recently had '1986' on it, suggesting relaxation about being new. Were the old club officially liquidated in the way Rangers have been? Are they regarded as new, in the same way that Darlington are by the authorities? Just interested. In the interest of balance and in respect of old foes friends now departed (from the thread), I'd just like to say:- ''Club, as in singular''. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) They shouldn't have pissed charlotte off. That soundcloud stuff with David Greir is just WOW. I take it him and the wife have divorced now? Eta .... CW to DG: How many kids have you got. DG: Two Liz: I didn't know until 2 weeks ago. Edited September 1, 2013 by wunfellaff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry just cpd it...long winded but wipes the floor with the zombies http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/the-death-of-rangers-fc-guest-post-by-johnbhoy/ First time i've seen that. This bit sums it up for me. The fact that the SFA has allowed The Rangers FC to pretend that their history is continuous, contrary to insolvency law, has no bearing on the facts of the case and will forever remain a stain on the SFA’s reputation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 First time i've seen that. This bit sums it up for me. This bit sums what up for you? The bit you quoted said: The fact that the SFA has allowed The Rangers FC to pretend that their history is continuous, contrary to insolvency law, has no bearing on the facts of the case and will forever remain a stain on the SFA’s reputation. Talk me through what it actually sums up. Pick out the salient facts and describe The SFA's participation. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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