Monkey Tennis Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 One does not the Old Firm make ... cute you tried though. WTF? How does that amount to an answer? You'd claimed that "the Old Firm did not contribute anything" to sectarianism. I pointed out that one of the two parts of the OF actually operated a sectarian signing policy, thus rendering your claim, nonsense. Then you post the above? That's just weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Has the news about Moses McNeil Park just been brushed over then? he got subbed and replaced by the ever willing Big Jig....the Gallant Pioneer of our time (he got instead of hegot) Edited July 29, 2014 by Ken Fitlike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 the result of any poll here would be irrelevant as very few rangers fans actually post on this section, also we prefer to discuss 16-20th century irish ploitics on this part of the form, none of this modern day scottish stuff please nah in actual fact tbf the topic of independnec is hardly ever discussed on this part of the forum So where do the Rangers fans post? I think I'll open a thread and see what happens. It's too big an issue for apathy. Hardly a vast majority of Rangers fans but fair enough you can only go on what is seen, i personally know of many Rangers fans who are voting YES, as for myself, i haven't got a vote being domiciled in England. However speaking for myself, whilst i support the Union my politics are that of Labour and if i still lived in Scotland i may well vote YES, it would depend on my summation of taking everything into account, which tbh i haven't done. A poll on this thread, a resounding YES i would think Well, I stand astounded Youngsy, that is probably the most reasonable post I've seen from you. I confess that I may have got you mixed up with Bendarroch though, maybe I'm an ageist I would doubt your opinion in last sentence btw but we shall see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 i nipped over to a shop across the road from the pub to get some fags before I went in , got fags and was crossing back across the road whilst the traffic had come to a stop as I was crossing in between two stopped cars the one in front's passanger decided he would wind his window down and infrom me i was an orange so and so. as i said I gave a bit of verbal back as I was walking back over the road before joining my mates back in the pub. did not bother me in the slightest tbh I am just saying it is intereseting that no one seems to be bothered by this but when a rangers fan has been accused of similar actions then p and b demands instant condemnation form the rangers fans ? Whit! What century did this take place in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 So where do the Rangers fans post? I think I'll open a thread and see what happens. It's too big an issue for apathy. Well, I stand astounded Youngsy, that is probably the most reasonable post I've seen from you. I confess that I may have got you mixed up with Bendarroch though, maybe I'm an ageist I would doubt your opinion in last sentence btw but we shall see. tip-toeing to enquire........ any body heard from the feisty auld curmudgeon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No it makes perfect sense. You attributed something one club did to the Old Firm ... ie both clubs. Weird, is someone with an obvious IQ pretending he doesn't understand. If three people in my family get done for stealing, I can't claim there's no evidence of theft in my family, even if some family members are guiltless. Similarly, you can't seriously claim that "the Old Firm did not contribute anything to sectarianism", when part of it operated a sectarian signing policy. If you wanted to argue that Celtic contributed nothing, I'd take issue with that too, but I wouldn't be able to cite the signing policy in doing so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 1. I mean look at Mikey, spent the last few days blaming Rangers fans for all the sectarian hatred in Scotland, 2. pulls across a video in some daft attempt to prove his point and the only sectarian thing on the video was hibs fans shouting 'Orange b*****ds" 1. Nope I have simply stated that I believe there would be a lot less sectarianism without both Old Firm clubs. 2. I pulled the video to highlight your glaring hypocrisy and faux outrage at 'gratifying violence'. Now stop lying and f**k off. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sectarianism exists outwith football ... the fact that certain individuals attach themselves to a club does not make the club responsible, nor does it make them 'contribute'. I'd disagree. Each club is guilty in the past of profiting from it and actively encouraging it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sorry but your analogy is simply irrelevant. My contention is that one club's sectarian signing policy has nothing to do with the other. That's a fact, it hasn't and therefore cannot be attributed to the 'OF' ... despite your colourful analogy. So what exactly is the Old Firm, if the behaviour of its constituent parts somehow operates outside it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Rangers = responsible for everything thats wrong in the country. celtic = Fun loving jolly craicsters. This thread gets weirder by the day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Then cite your proof .. I can see where he's coming from, your clubs attitude(pandering) towards the green brigade, doesn't help matters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The OF is a term for two clubs. Yes, so when you said that the Old Firm had not contributed to sectarianism, you only meant that they hadn't had meetings at which they'd decided on collective initiatives to stoke sectarian tensions? You do accept however that either or each of the clubs may have been guilty of actions which were destructive in this regard? I'm starting to think that your original point lacked one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 There's some utter bollix being spouted on here. It's got worse just very recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Rangers Launch Club Membership Written by Rangers Football Club MANAGER Ally McCoist and Captain Lee McCulloch joined a group of fans at Murray Park today (Tuesday 29, July 2014) to launch Rangers Club Membership – an initiative designed to bring supporters closer than ever to their Club. As this is the inaugural season for Club Membership all supporters who join will become Founder Members including all season ticket holders, who will automatically receive complimentary Founder Membership. Club Members will enjoy a series of exclusive benefits bringing them closer to the Club and the team as well as access to Member only events and promotions. Membership will bring enhanced participation with the Club including the ability for Members to apply for a position on the Fans Board and to vote in the Fans Board elections; exclusive members only email in advance of every home game; Members only prize draws; behind the scenes experiences including Q&A sessions with the Manager/CEO/Players and a Members only training day at Ibrox. Members will also have the chance to enjoy discounts across the Club including Matchday Hospitality, Ibrox Stadium Tours and non-matchday dining at the Argyle House Restaurant. As a Rangers Junior Founder Member supporters will have the opportunity to be mascots at home games, have access to exclusive online content and competitions and will receive a Junior Founder Member only pack including a scarf, wristband, bag and stickers in addition to their Founder Member badge, certificate and card. Season ticket holders can take up their benefits from today and their pack, which includes the Founder Member badge, certificate and card will be issued in the next 4-6 weeks. Non season ticket holders can purchase Club Membership online at rangers.co.uk/membership priced £24.99 plus P&P* for adults and £14.99 plus P&P* for juniors. Members can benefit from the many benefits right away and Founder Member welcome packs will be posted within 4-6 weeks from purchase. Ally McCoist commented: “This initiative is a fantastic way for our fans to get closer than ever to their Club. As Rangers Founder Members supporters can apply to join the Fans Board or vote in the upcoming Fans Board elections, have the opportunity to take part in exclusive Q&A sessions with the CEO and myself, attend a members only training session at Ibrox or have the chance of a behind the scenes tour of Murray Park. “I am also delighted that all Rangers season ticket holders are being given Founder Member status automatically and will receive all the benefits associated with that. Our supporters have shown unbelievable passion, loyalty and commitment to Rangers, especially in the last few seasons, and I can’t thank them enough for their continued backing. “I encourage all fans to become Founder Members of the Club, get even closer and take advantage of the exclusive range of benefits on offer. We are on our way back to the top of Scottish football and together the journey will be much easier.” Lee McCulloch added: “The Rangers fans are the lifeblood of this great institution and initiatives like Club Membership are a key way to reward that incredible loyalty. Our supporters have backed the team in huge numbers at Ibrox and in away games in the past few seasons and I am sure they will get right behind us once again when the campaign begins. “The players and management staff are all looking forward to the opening league game against Hearts where we will unfurl the League One flag and honour the late Sandy Jardine and I ask all Rangers fans to sign up for Club Membership and be part of this exciting initiative.” Can I just clarify if this brings fans closer to the club ? What height are Sally and Elbows in this pic ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Not condemning is not actively encouraging ... as you are well aware. There's some utter bollix being spouted on here. However, not condemning it, does encourage it. I would suggest it encourages the GB to see how far they can push the boundaries. Or maybe I'm wrong and Celtics "ignore them and they will go away" type attitude will see the welcome end of the green brigade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Can I just clarify if this brings fans closer to the club ? What height are Sally and Elbows in this pic ? Closer than ever. The height of nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) So Celtic never initiated a Bhoys against Bigotry campaign, I imagined that?Was that not in 1996?It's just I'm struggling to find anything up to date on it, what it does, is it an organisation, a charter, what is it? How is its success graded? Edited July 29, 2014 by dave.j 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No8. Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If you wanted to argue that Celtic contributed nothing, I'd take issue with that too, but I wouldn't be able to cite the signing policy in doing so. Oh but you could and TBH you would be on much firmer ground 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 A badge, certificate and discount card for £25. Nobody is that daft? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 A badge, certificate and discount card for £25. Nobody is that daft? It's the right to vote that is the important bit (aside from the cash) , so the boycott the season ticket brigade get disenfranchised 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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