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Gladly.

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/222118-turning-my-back-on-rangers/page-4

Now who looks like a fucking simpleton ? :1eye

Sorry meant to add this as well you stupid cnut after you changed from the country voting to just the electorate after I pointed out your failure.

Uh huh. Now run along and show me where I said...'62% voted no'.....Simpleton.

You see I was very careful NOT to say they did in the quotes above. Only just over 1/3rd of the electorate voted Yes...I believe the figure is around 38%. Obviously that doesn't equate to 62% voting No! Only a Simpleton would believe otherwise.

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I suspect that only dear old Youngsy could start a post by goading someone for their use of figures, before ending it by claiming to be 3/4 of the way through the calendar year, on the last day of April.

Not only that but his initial figures are wrong, if 55% voted yes, as he contends, we would be independent.

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LOL - you have predicted admin more times than Phil McMadeUpPlasticName, here is you stating as fact(omundo) :1eye that the newco will not survive in the 3rd division.

Yet another prediction, yet another fucked up Christmas

Public knowledge aye? soon aye?

There are loads more.

Never mind here you are stating as fact that we will not make it through this season, still a few weeks to go, like ill Phil, you can but hope I guess.

No need to thank me, Youngsy will no doubt do that for you, but I guess you do owe him an apology, don't stop the predictions though.

The QC, what's he like lol

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So since the good guys came to power how much have they invested in the Rangers.?

Why don't phone or email Paul and ask them.....

Paul.murray1872@rangers.co.uk

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The Scottish Professional Football League will refuse to let Rangers to allow their season ticket holders in for free to the Premiership play-offs.

STV understands the league's board have taken the stance that the clubs must abide by rules which the SPFL believes prevents free admission being given.

It is believed the board also canvassed the opinion from other member clubs before arriving at their decision.

The decision leaves Rangers and Motherwell, who have also publicly stated their wish to allow free entry if they finish 11th in the Premiership, with a decision over whether to press ahead and subsequently be in breach of the regulations.

If a rule breach can be proved, clubs can face any number of sanctions.

That includes a financial sanction, which would seem the most likely given the SPFL would stand to lose out on cash if season ticket holders are granted free admission.

The row stems from rule C26 of the league's regulations. It states that clubs must give 50% of the gross proceeds from gate receipts to the SPFL by means of a levy, with all sums "paid or payable" to be directed to the league.

STV spoke to a sports lawyer this week who says he can see a legitimate case for both sides of the argument, but warned he could see no explicit rule which forbids clubs from giving out free entry to season ticket holders.

Neeraj Thomas from Burness Paull LLP said: "I think the SPFL are basing their argument on rule C26, which basically states that money "paid or payable" for play-off matches. On that money should be a 50% levy paid to the SPFL as an organisation.

"There's a counter-argument to that in that there isn't a clear rule which says you can't let in fans for free for these play-off matches. So I think that's probably where the tension is coming at the moment.

"The fact they do mention 'or payable' I think is what the SPFL are going to hang their hat on and say whether the money is paid or not is really relevant. The fact is the money is 'payable', so it is due.

"So if Rangers or any other clubs don't want to charge their fans for that, the money is [still] payable so it should be paid by the clubs to the SPFL in lieu of the fans not actually paying their own admission fee.

"The clubs are saying if there's no actual rule saying we have to charge season ticket holders into these play-off matches, then they are obviously saying they are free to do what they want.

"But it is clear there is some ambiguity about what rules apply and how those rules are going to be interpreted.

"It is very difficult. It does purely come down to interpretation of rule C26. The club view would be that the money hasn't been paid, therefore they are free to not charge their season ticket holders into this match. There is not a specific rule which says they have to."

It remains to be seen whether the clubs will now press ahead with their plans.

The clubs' plans

Earlier this week, Rangers outlined their "intention" to let season ticket holders in for free to all play-off home matches.

"The club believes supporters who bought tickets for the entire season should not be asked to pay more," they said.

"It is fundamentally wrong to ask supporters to pay for season tickets and then, at the end of the campaign, expect them to pay again to watch what will now be the most important matches of that same season."

Motherwell have said they will let season ticket holders in for free for their home match if they finish in the 11th position in the Premiership.

Hibernian are yet to publicly state their intentions, while Queen of the South say finances mean they will have to charge their season ticket holders for entry.

The Hibernian precedent

The SPFL didn't rule Hibs to be in breach of league rules last season when they let in season ticket holders for free to their play-off final match with Hamilton Academical.

Sports lawyer Thomas believes this could lead to conflict.

"The Hibs issue definitely has caused a significant problem for the SPFL," he said. "When it comes to the enforcement of these rules, they have to be enforced consistently.

"In a situation where it is all a bit vague what happened with Hibs last year, but it seems to be the position that they didn't charge their season ticket holders for entry into the play-off matches. However that was decided, it was the decision was made they didn't have to charge their fans for that match.

"The problem now for the SPFL comes when they insist other clubs have to charge their season ticket holders for that match.

"The other clubs will obviously say 'what about Hibs last year? They didn't charge their season ticket holders, why is it we are having to charge our season ticket holders now?'http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/319139-spfl-to-refuse-permission-for-rangers-play-off-season-ticket-plan/

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Says it all really

The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Ken Ferguson (Brechin City).

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Says it all really

The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Ken Ferguson (Brechin City).

What does it say really?
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Says it all really

The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Ken Ferguson (Brechin City).

It does indeed say a lot when the Cockwomble and your old mates can't convince assorted Diddies to let the rangers do what they want. Maybe if your lot hadn't engineered silly wee boycotts and threatened to burn down a ground the decision might have gone the other way...

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Says it all really

The current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Ken Ferguson (Brechin City).

Sure does.

What does it say?

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Says it all reallyThe current SPFL Board is made up of Neil Doncaster (CEO), Ralph Topping (Chairman), Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers), Mike Mulraney (Alloa Athletic) and Ken Ferguson (Brechin City).

Seriously, what on earth does it say?

I'm genuinely puzzled.

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Paul Murray passed fit and proper by the SFA.

Fit and proper. The interpretation of words is a wonderful thing to behold.

On that basis I'm going to describe Ally McCoist as a 'technically capable and inspirational football manager'. Margaret Thatcher as 'a politician loved by the Scottish public'. And Take That as 'having made a significant contribution to the music industry in the U.K.'.

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Fit and proper. The interpretation of words is a wonderful thing to behold.

On that basis I'm going to describe Ally McCoist as a 'technically capable and inspirational football manager'. Margaret Thatcher as 'a politician loved by the Scottish public'. And Take That as 'having made a significant contribution to the music industry in the U.K.'.

Let's not forget the mesmeric and charismatic actor, Tom Cruise.

Or the WInter Sports phenomenon that was Eddie Edwards.

Or the fair and balanced broadcaster that is Fox News.

(For the uninitiated, the last one is actually how they describe themselves :o)

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