CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) It didn't. Sevco Scotland, or Sevco 5088 (depending how this case goes) are the new club. They changed their name to The Rangers Football Club. Rangers International are also a new company, and they are Rangers' holding company. How they were allowed to compete in the Ramdens Cup in 2012 I don't fully understand and also why Sevco Scotland had to compete in the first place in this competition when they could have sat it out and focused on more important issues and the league they were placed in?. Even the people who were running Sevco Scotland either were unsure or lied about continuity because if they were absolutely sure the club Rangers would have been called Rangers and not The Rangers. Why did they not go straight ahead and use the name Rangers in the first place.? Also one of the worst way to lie is to tell the lie to as many people as its possible backed with fallacious stacked evidence tell it as many times as possible over and over again and eventually people will believe it, many because they want to believe it. For example for centuries the church who had control of everything to do with science made people believe that swallows hibernated in the mud over winter and the people who believed they migrated were mad, simply because the church had so much power in peoples minds and why would they be misleading, its the church, they are right because...... Edited September 9, 2015 by CityDave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) How they were allowed to compete in the Ramdens Cup in 2012 I don't fully understand and also why Sevco Scotland had to compete in the first place in this competition when they could have sat it out and focused on more important issues and the league they were placed in?. Even the people who were running Sevco Scotland either were unsure or lied about continuity because if they were absolutely sure the club Rangers would have been called Rangers and not The Rangers. Why did they not go straight ahead and use the name Rangers in the first place.? Also one of the worst way to lie is to tell the lie to as many people as its possible backed with fallacious stacked evidence tell it as many times as possible over and over again and eventually people will believe it, many because they want to believe it. For example for centuries the church who had control of everything to do with science made people believe that swallows hibernated in the mud over winter and the people who believed they migrated were mad, simply because the church had so much power in peoples minds and why would they be misleading, its the church, they are right because...... Great post citydave. I'd like to hear bennet's response to this (but not forever_blue's broken record response...) The use of 'The' is fundamental to highlighting the difference. Another sneaky point was at the start of their first season back in 2012 they weren't confident enough to display 5 stars on the front of the shirts so they HID it down the side. Then, after a good bout of them lieing like a broken record then they put them on the front of the shirts the following season (when they started thinking they'd got away with the Great Swindle...) - they really have no dignity. Edited September 9, 2015 by mythstoliveby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Come on bennet, you must manage better than Tedi here??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Because the rules allowed it and because we are the establishment club. Bidco / pacific shelf? it is common practice to buy an off the shelf company and change the name. Really? ffs Wait a goddam minute, ........I thought Rangers were the club and not the company, do Rangers Sevco Scotland fans now think they are the same?. That would be some slip up if someone like Paul Murray came out with that. More :lol: If Rangers were the company then they did not survive liquidation where as anyone can buy assets from them and call themselves what they want, even Rangers for that matter, not that I would change my own name by deed poll to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Tedi deliberately hilariously misapprehending the whole thing as per. To clarify: Bidco bought Hearts Pacific Shelf bought Celtic Sevco are Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'll ask again, if I pitches up at ibrox next week and make an offer solely for the club without "the company" What exactly would I be buying? As I said, the playing and non playing contract are held with "the company" as are the assets I.e Ibrox and still not renamed Murray Park along with the SFA/SPFL registration and memberships. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Who did Leeds United 2007 Ltd buy? Your deflection is irrelevant, and consequently is being ignored. Glad you do not disagree with my assertions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Tedi as per, having a 'mare. But, but, but, Leeds United! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Tedi - I'll see your Leed Utd and raise you a Bill Miller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Where did I say they were the same.....oh that's right I didn't , then again, how can anyone argue with a post weighted with so many wonderfully placed tactical smilies, Because the rules allowed it and because we are the establishment club. Bidco / pacific shelf? it is common practice to buy an off the shelf company and change the name. Really? ffs Again. Maybe you should have said ''it is common practice to buy an off the shelf club and assets and change the name''. You do remember Charles Green did not buy the company that ran the football club known back then as Rangers FC?. As it happened Sevco Scotland Ltd became The Rangers Football Club Ltd as it is today, now why would a new entity call itself after a company that had been around since 1899, now we know the Ltd co became a plc under David Murray but it was the same company, same company that went into liquidation in 2012. No why would Charles Green call this new entity The Rangers Football Club Ltd after a company that was currently in the process of being liquidated?. For anyone not in the know it appears it might appear the difference and the continuity would be in the company just going back to being a limited company. Not that there once was a CVA knocked back nor that the company called The Rangers Football Club plc entered into liquidation proceedings. Maybe you should call yourself The Tedi just to prove your point that there was continuation and the word The was only a formality to avoid a legal challenge while the lobbyists earned their money trying to convince the governing bodies and the meedya that this was indeed the same club. Oh I forgot no 5 stars on the shirts because no one was sure this was the same club. How fucking bright is that not knowing what you are?. But of course they knew what they were, ............they were a lie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Also, "The" was used for particularly sneaky reasons - some fans referred to "the rangers" in conversation pre-2012, just because of their own particular way of speaking. So Green was able to jump on the back of that. But more sneaky imo was using a prefix that would actually get in the way during general conversation - he knew fine well that people would soon want to stop that and just use the word "Rangers" simply to benefit the flow of the conversation. As I said, sneaky and lacking any dignity. In fact I recall Cowan and Cosgrove on radio Scotland a couple of years ago agreeing that they should stop trying to say "The Rangers" simply because it kept tripping up their conversations. So there you go - the only reason that (the new) Rangers get treated the same as the old Rangers is for the sake of conversation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sneaky use of "The", Hiding 5 stars down the side of the strip, Always talking about 'administration' and ignoring the L-word... ...what a classless bunch. They act like juveniles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Never knew that P and B had so many corporate/company experts, some of ranaldo bairns posts have been quite eye opening. City Dave must be a bigwig in the 'city' ,he really nails it in way that the bloggers just can't manage. The truth as they say is out there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sneaky use of "The", Hiding 5 stars down the side of the strip, Always talking about 'administration' and ignoring the L-word... relegated back 54 and counting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Never knew that P and B had so many corporate/company experts, some of ranaldo bairns posts have been quite eye opening. City Dave must be a bigwig in the 'city' ,he really nails it in way that the bloggers just can't manage. The truth as they say is out there... bennett, so you agree with citydave then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Maybe the Celtic fans could save up and pay for another advert stating that they think that Rangers is a new club. The last advert was a good laugh..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 relegated back 54 and counting Yes, I forgot about them!! Add them to the list. Very sneaky indeed. And also perhaps such terms act as a comfort blanket for those suffering the loss particularly acutely....(forever_blue - that's you! Any sign of that anger yet....) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythstoliveby Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Maybe the Celtic fans could save up and pay for another advert stating that they think that Rangers is a new club. The last advert was a good laugh..... That's your response bennett? Is that all you've got??!??! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The Rangers currently playing in the Scottish Championship are a fraud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Maybe the Celtic fans could save up and pay for another advert stating that they think that Rangers is a new club. The last advert was a good laugh..... You support a dirty great lie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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