Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Monkey Tennis]

The only Kirk broad enough, had problems boiling an egg in a microwave ....

He'd be a member given the chance, I'd imagine

[Monkey Tennis]

££££

Yes, you're right. It's the same reason why the other lot accept their element of malicious swine as well.

[K Dodd]

Classy.

FORMER Rangers and England footballer Paul Gascoigne has triggered a row after appearing to re-enact a controversial flute-playing gesture in front of an audience in Glasgow.

The footballer, who continues to battle alcoholism, appeared to imitate the gesture to the 1000-strong crowd at the Magnum Leisure Centre in Irvine last Friday as he was welcomed on the stage to Tina Turner’s Simply the Best.

Huge numbers of the audience were also reported as shouting “f*** the pope and the IRA”.

Addressing the crowd as he made his first public appearance since he went to a US addiction clinic after collapsing during a speaking engagement in ­Northampton in January, Gascoigne shouted: “I f***ing love Glasgow.”

It drew cheers and chanting from the crowd, with some fans also singing banned loyalist songs, including The Billy Boys.

The flute salute is considered to be a controversial Loyalist symbol.

In 1998 Gascoigne was fined for making the taunt towards rivals Celtic when he played for Scottish club Rangers.

His actions during the clash were deemed highly offensive to Celtic’s traditionally Catholic supporters, but Gascoigne claimed he had not known the meaning behind the salute.

Following the incident, he was fined £20,000 and claimed that he had received IRA death threats.

North Ayrshire Councillor Ian Clarkson, who attended the event last Friday, was reported in the Daily Record as saying that the event highlighted problem areas.

“The event in the Magnum was advertised as a comedian/speaker night, and in effect that is what it was,” he said. “Unfortunately, the night highlighted certain problem areas.”

He added: “I believe there was a number in the audience who persisted in singing and chanting, and the stewards should have taken action, to stop any offensive behaviour.”

Mr Clarkson was unavailable for comment when contacted by The Irish Post.

But his comments were branded a joke by Empowering Scotland’s Ethnic and Cultural Minority Communities (BEMIS), Parliamentary and Policy Officer, Danny Boyle.

Speaking to The Irish Post Mr Boyle said: “The image that the local authority is portraying is indicative of the wider problem, it’s not a good approach. They label the problem as a sectarian problem, but that’s too general.”

Mr Boyle referenced statistics provided to The Irish Post by the Scottish Government, which indicated that whilst the number of religiously aggravated charges in the country was decreasing, the majority of these attacks were still targeted at Catholics.

In 2014/15, 569 religiously aggravated charges were reported, four per cent fewer than the previous year and is at its lowest level since 2004-05, when 479 charges were reported.

But in the last year the majority of racial attacks were still targeted at Roman Catholics with 328 incidents reported, which formed 58 per cent of all offences.

Regarding the overall sense of anti-Catholic offences in Scotland, Mr Boyle added: “There’s a disparity, because judging by the evidence it’s [sectarian behaviour] actually an anti-Catholic problem. They [authorities] use generic terms [sectarianism] to mask what the actual problems are. It’s a hate crime.”

At present, football fans can be punished by law for committing sectarian behaviour at matches, but this legislation does not extend further to private events.

A spokeswoman for Police Scotland confirmed that no arrests had been made and no complaints received following the Gascoigne event.

The Irish Post is awaiting a response from a member of Gascoigne’s management team.

http://irishpost.co.uk/81210/

Edited February 25, 2016 by K Dodd

[Monkey Tennis]

Eh?

Was it in Irvine or Glasgow?

[Ned Nederlander]

Classy.

FORMER Rangers and England footballer Paul Gascoigne has triggered a row after appearing to re-enact a controversial flute-playing gesture in front of an audience in Glasgow.

The footballer, who continues to battle alcoholism, appeared to imitate the gesture to the 1000-strong crowd at the Magnum Leisure Centre in Irvine last Friday as he was welcomed on the stage to Tina Turners Simply the Best.

Huge numbers of the audience were also reported as shouting f*** the pope and the IRA.

Addressing the crowd as he made his first public appearance since he went to a US addiction clinic after collapsing during a speaking engagement in ­Northampton in January, Gascoigne shouted: I f***ing love Glasgow.

It drew cheers and chanting from the crowd, with some fans also singing banned loyalist songs, including The Billy Boys.

The flute salute is considered to be a controversial Loyalist symbol.

In 1998 Gascoigne was fined for making the taunt towards rivals Celtic when he played for Scottish club Rangers.

His actions during the clash were deemed highly offensive to Celtics traditionally Catholic supporters, but Gascoigne claimed he had not known the meaning behind the salute.

Following the incident, he was fined £20,000 and claimed that he had received IRA death threats.

North Ayrshire Councillor Ian Clarkson, who attended the event last Friday, was reported in the Daily Record as saying that the event highlighted problem areas.

The event in the Magnum was advertised as a comedian/speaker night, and in effect that is what it was, he said. Unfortunately, the night highlighted certain problem areas.

He added: I believe there was a number in the audience who persisted in singing and chanting, and the stewards should have taken action, to stop any offensive behaviour.

Mr Clarkson was unavailable for comment when contacted by The Irish Post.

But his comments were branded a joke by Empowering Scotlands Ethnic and Cultural Minority Communities (BEMIS), Parliamentary and Policy Officer, Danny Boyle.

Speaking to The Irish Post Mr Boyle said: The image that the local authority is portraying is indicative of the wider problem, its not a good approach. They label the problem as a sectarian problem, but thats too general.

Mr Boyle referenced statistics provided to The Irish Post by the Scottish Government, which indicated that whilst the number of religiously aggravated charges in the country was decreasing, the majority of these attacks were still targeted at Catholics.

In 2014/15, 569 religiously aggravated charges were reported, four per cent fewer than the previous year and is at its lowest level since 2004-05, when 479 charges were reported.

But in the last year the majority of racial attacks were still targeted at Roman Catholics with 328 incidents reported, which formed 58 per cent of all offences.

Regarding the overall sense of anti-Catholic offences in Scotland, Mr Boyle added: Theres a disparity, because judging by the evidence its [sectarian behaviour] actually an anti-Catholic problem. They [authorities] use generic terms [sectarianism] to mask what the actual problems are. Its a hate crime.

At present, football fans can be punished by law for committing sectarian behaviour at matches, but this legislation does not extend further to private events.

A spokeswoman for Police Scotland confirmed that no arrests had been made and no complaints received following the Gascoigne event.

The Irish Post is awaiting a response from a member of Gascoignes management team.

http://irishpost.co.uk/81210/

As much as yon event sounds utterly fucking dreadful I still found myself wondering just what the f'ck it had to do with the Irish Post and why the f'ck they felt the need to bother Gazza's management about it.

Do they report, and expect answers, from similar goings on thoughout the Globe - did they ask questions of Celtic after the Stranraer game ?

And yes, I do believe I just indulged in a bout of whataboutery.

F'ck off Irish Post!!

[dave.j]

Jakey scummy piece of shit acting like a Jakey scummy piece of shit, shocker.

[The_Kincardine]

FORMER Rangers and England footballer Paul Gascoigne has triggered a row after appearing to re-enact a controversial flute-playing gesture in front of an audience in Glasgow.

Driving a coach and horses through the English language here. "controversial flute-playing gesture" What is a benign flute-playing gesture? This is cant in the extreme.

[joseph anton]

Jakey scummy piece of shit acting like a Jakey scummy piece of shit, shocker.

Bit harsh on Kincardine............Oh, Gascoigne!

[The DA]

Driving a coach and horses through the English language here. "controversial flute-playing gesture" What is a benign flute-playing gesture? This is cant in the extreme.

Have you seen James Galway in action?

[Jacksgranda]

Have you seen James Galway in action?

That's Sir James to you, young man.

[The DA]

That's Sir James to you, young man.

Can't remember when I was last called 'young man'. Chapeau, you young fart.

[bennett]

Eh?

Was it in Irvine or Glasgow?

That's what I was wondering, the article wanders all over the place.

[The DA]

That's what I was wondering, the article wanders all over the place.

I know how you feel.

[bennett]

I know how you feel.

Usually with my hands.

[The_Kincardine]

Oh Mikey how wrong you are and if only you dossers had a group like our VBs.

Aye ok they are a bunch of c***s and are at the Spetsnaz end of our supporters groups but they follow follow so get my respect.

Ibrox is a broad kirk - something underappreciated by the brain dead Ps&Ds.

I like how you emphasise the disparity in opinions among Rangers fans before immediately following up with a bigoted sweeping generalisation about another group -

You're doing the usual thing of playing to the gallery. The only time that 'generalisations' become bigoted is when they are made by Rangers fans.

This is to your demerit.

For sure The Diddies hunt in packs and exhibit 'group think'. Stating this doesn't make me a bigot.

[Monkey Tennis]

For sure The Diddies hunt in packs and exhibit 'group think'. Stating this doesn't make me a bigot.

I think you're wildly wrong with this.

There is a huge range of views and styles in the group you identify as the diddies.

[BinoBalls]

You're doing the usual thing of playing to the gallery. The only time that 'generalisations' become bigoted is when they are made by Rangers fans.

This is to your demerit.

For sure The Diddies hunt in packs and exhibit 'group think'. Stating this doesn't make me a bigot.

You called all non-Rangers fans "brain dead". And now you're actually trying to justify that. You're only digging a bigger hole.

You seem incapable of separating the behaviour of a handful of posters from the behaviour of a massive group. But yet you bristle at anyone laughing at the Vanguard Bears, as though we're all daft enough to think the vanguard bears are a fair representation of Rangers fans.

[K Dodd]

In 2014/15, 569 religiously aggravated charges were reported, four per cent fewer than the previous year and is at its lowest level since 2004-05, when 479 charges were reported.

A spokesman for Police Scotland said "we are delighted to have achieved these figures, and this has been mainly accomplished by using a policy of turning a blind eye. And we hope to reduce these figures even more substantially in the coming years."

[stonedsailor]

Driving a coach and horses through the English language here. "controversial flute-playing gesture" What is a benign flute-playing gesture? This is cant in the extreme.

I would say when someone is gesturing playing the flute in a situation which could have no sectarian connotations eg a music teacher simulating to a pupil how to hold the instrument. No matter how you look at it, Gazza's flute playing gesture is iconic and controversial.

[strichener]

That's what I was wondering, the article wanders all over the place.

Not the article, it was Gazza that was all over the place.......again.