Mr. Brightside Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The Damned United. 8/10 I liked it, even if I had my reservations about the real people it slandered. In reality it was far less anti Clough than I imagined, the people who really got it in the neck were Don Revie and Billy Bremner. I thought Charlie Sheen was excellent and he looks a lot like Clough too, the actor playing Peter Taylor was less inspired and it never really got into the philosophy of why Clough was successful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTON Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Very harsh, which ones of Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins, Dark Knight and Inception would you drop below it? (Haven't seen Following so I dont know what that's like) Thread on Nolan films The Prestige and Batman Begins don't make the top five. Inception was fifth. 1) The Dark Knight (at second watch, would have been 6th on first watch) 2) Memento 3) Following 4) Insomnia 5) Inception 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is how I'd list ALL of the Nolan movies I've watched. 1. The Prestige 2. Memento 3. Insomnia 4. Batman Begins 5. Following 6. The Dark Knight 7. Inception And Inception is quite a bit behind that top 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The Scorpian King : Battle for Redemption Someone must have the goods on Ron Pearlman cos I doubt he needed the cash to do this pile o' pish. Think of the end of Blazing Saddels with the various film sets and actors all coming together and you have the costumes, looks like it was filmed in a Californian park with the occasional rubber plant (and cricket/monkey soundtrack) to make it a ''jungle''. Not even cheesey in the way Evil Dead 3 was, one of the worst things I have watched all the way through. 0/10 being generous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Under milk wood. First welsh film ive seen. It was alright, but for the first 30 mins i literally had no idea what the f**k it was all about. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. For some reason this film just does it for me. It's one of my favourite films. It's just perfect in my view. maybe it's partly because i see some of the joel barish charachter in myself. Jim carrey is a pure ledge. Im not sure hes the most intelligent but this and truman show are two of my fav films. Edited January 1, 2012 by jojo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is how I'd list ALL of the Nolan movies I've watched. 1. The Prestige 2. Memento 3. Insomnia 4. Batman Begins 5. Following 6. The Dark Knight 7. Inception And Inception is quite a bit behind that top 6. I have not seem Following or Insomnia but out of the other 5 I would need to say; Inception The Dark Knight The Prestige Batman Begins Memento It appears that our taste is quite different! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 This is how I'd list ALL of the Nolan movies I've watched. 1. The Prestige 2. Memento 3. Insomnia 4. Batman Begins 5. Following 6. The Dark Knight 7. Inception And Inception is quite a bit behind that top 6. I haven't actually watched it for a second time but The Prestige just seems like a film that wouldn't be anywhere near as good a second time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I've watched it a few times. I really enjoy it pretty much every time. The Dark Knight will probably get higher with repeat viewings as I enjoyed that much more second time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewbo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 come to think of it, Singer left after 2 so maybe you were talking about these two. If you were talking about 2 and Last Stand then I don't think the quality wavered that much. If you're comparing those three and First Class then I don't think you can compare. It's not just the director who changed, the whole writing team changed and all the actors. I'd say that the actors in the original run was better than First Class also. Correct, I meant the differences between the first 2, last stand, and origins/first class as 3 blocks. Last stand was watchable, but from a cinematic perspective its pretty shit, and definitely worse than the other 4 (fair enough, first class was a different cast but similar calibre of cast). I also haven't seen Following, I'd rate his films; Batman Begins The Dark Knight Inception Memento The Prestige Insomnia Thread on Nolan films The Prestige and Batman Begins don't make the top five. Inception was fifth. 1) The Dark Knight (at second watch, would have been 6th on first watch) 2) Memento 3) Following 4) Insomnia 5) Inception This is how I'd list ALL of the Nolan movies I've watched. 1. The Prestige 2. Memento 3. Insomnia 4. Batman Begins 5. Following 6. The Dark Knight 7. Inception And Inception is quite a bit behind that top 6. Blasphemy!!!! Inception was great, not as good as Prestige or Memento but certainly on par with batman begins and better than dark knight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessies long lost ghost Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 1. The Dark Knight 2. The Prestige 3. Batman Begins 4. Memento 5. Inception 6. Following 7. Insomnia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Correct, I meant the differences between the first 2, last stand, and origins/first class as 3 blocks. Last stand was watchable, but from a cinematic perspective its pretty shit, and definitely worse than the other 4 (fair enough, first class was a different cast but similar calibre of cast). Well you were talking about a change in director so comparing origin and first class with anything else is a bit moot. Looking at the writing credit for the first 3. X-Men had Singer, Tom DeSanto and David Hayter wrote parts of it. X2 was Singer, Hayter and Zack Penn. Then Last Stand gives credit to Penn and Simon Kinberg and that's when Singer left and Brett Ratner became the director. With the cast staying the same, I think that's the comparison you can use. No way is Last Stand worse than Wolverine Origins, it's utter garbage, it's probably the worst comic book film outside of Elektra! Apart from Bacon, Fassbender and McAvoy all the First Class cast were average. In the original 3 you have veterans like Stewart and McKellen, not to mention people like Jansen, Jackman and Berry who aren't terrible actors. And Anna Paquin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Oh its definitely a good film, the rating was more to do with my expectations of it than a lack of quality. Fair enough about it not really being 'his' film, but a change of direction can make so much difference (The X-Men films are the ones that spring to mind, same actors for most, replaced in first class by actors of equal talent for the mostpart). It's not really the type of film where you can change direction though. Although, there are some changes (in a couple of cases, substantial ones) from the original. I prefer the remake, purely because the ending in the original is even worse than the Nolan one. The original one is more dark and sinister, but the dialogue isn't particularly good compared to the remake. The remake isn't as fast paced as the original (which ties into how Pacino's character is feeling throughout the film - it appears Nolan does create some of his films to allow the audience to experience what the characters are experiencing, to a certain extent). I've seen all of his films now (I don't think I've done a review for Following though so a rewatch might be in order) and I'll put it like this: Memento The Dark Knight Batman Begins Following Inception Insomnia The Prestige Compared to my previous list, it's quite different. Watching them all again definitely had a considerable influence, although places 3-7 can change fairly easily. IMO they are all 7-9.9/10 films. Edited January 1, 2012 by yoda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTON Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Someone must have the goods on Ron Pearlman cos I doubt he needed the cash to do this pile o' pish. That's almost all Ron Perlman does. Unmitigated shite! Of the films I've seen of his let's take a look (in order best to worst)... Blade II Hellboy Mutant Chronicles Alien Resurrection Police Academy: Mission to Moscow Rats Hellboy II: The Golden Army You can tell just looking at the names of these films that he chooses to be in utter, utter, shite! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud131 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The Troll Hunter - 7/10 Fairly entertaining Blair Witch style film about a group of college students in Norway following around a guy who hunts trolls. Simple really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewbo Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm pleased at the amount of controversy I've caused Well you were talking about a change in director so comparing origin and first class with anything else is a bit moot. With the cast staying the same, I think that's the comparison you can use. The writing certainly contributed to the poor standard of Last Stand, but there is a different feel to it than the first 2. There's no real connection felt with any of the characters IMO and I think there were far too many new characters added in (First Class suffered from this a wee bit aswell). I preferred Wolverine to it, thought it was pretty cheesey and some stuff was taken a bit far in it but its more enjoyable to watch I think. It's not really the type of film where you can change direction though. Although, there are some changes (in a couple of cases, substantial ones) from the original. I prefer the remake, purely because the ending in the original is even worse than the Nolan one. The original one is more dark and sinister, but the dialogue isn't particularly good compared to the remake. The remake isn't as fast paced as the original (which ties into how Pacino's character is feeling throughout the film - it appears Nolan does create some of his films to allow the audience to experience what the characters are experiencing, to a certain extent). I didnt think about it from that point of view, and now that you've pointed it out I totally see what you mean. Fair play to him if thats what he was going for but I dont think the subtlety of it works as well as this technique does in the likes of Memento and The Prestige. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The writing certainly contributed to the poor standard of Last Stand, but there is a different feel to it than the first 2. There's no real connection felt with any of the characters IMO and I think there were far too many new characters added in (First Class suffered from this a wee bit aswell). I preferred Wolverine to it, thought it was pretty cheesey and some stuff was taken a bit far in it but its more enjoyable to watch I think. What new characters were added in to Last Stand? Kitty Pride and some of the villains, that's about it. Maybe Angel. Wolverine is all sorts of horribad. It's probably me knowing the source but it's just terrible. For starters, the team that they're on(Wolverine, Sabertoooth etc) is supposed to be Canadian, they made it American. They turned Wade Wilson(Ryan Reynolds) into Deadpool(that's fine) but decided to start giving him all sorts of powers like teleportation, the optic blast and even adamantium swords that come out of him. That lost me. He's only got a healing factor, that's it in the powers department. His healing factor isn't even that good, it just keeps his cancer in check. Other than that, he's just good at shooting and with swords and stuff. There was loads of other mistakes as well. First Class also had all sorts of wrongs, namely that Beast was the only actual First Class member(except from Xavier and Magneto) who were in the film. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Winning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTON Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What new characters were added in to Last Stand? Kitty Pride and some of the villains, that's about it. Maybe Angel. Wolverine is all sorts of horribad. It's probably me knowing the source but it's just terrible. For starters, the team that they're on(Wolverine, Sabertoooth etc) is supposed to be Canadian, they made it American. They turned Wade Wilson(Ryan Reynolds) into Deadpool(that's fine) but decided to start giving him all sorts of powers like teleportation, the optic blast and even adamantium swords that come out of him. That lost me. He's only got a healing factor, that's it in the powers department. His healing factor isn't even that good, it just keeps his cancer in check. Other than that, he's just good at shooting and with swords and stuff. There was loads of other mistakes as well. First Class also had all sorts of wrongs, namely that Beast was the only actual First Class member(except from Xavier and Magneto) who were in the film. How can there be mistakes? It's not factual; it's based on one of your picture books again, isn't it? Wolverine is a horrible film though, and Last Stand was the best of them all as the others weren't need... it covered enough in that one film! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 How can there be mistakes? It's not factual; it's based on one of your picture books again, isn't it? Wolverine is a horrible film though, and Last Stand was the best of them all as the others weren't need... it covered enough in that one film! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Wait, you mean the film is different from the stories???? Like someone made a film based on a book/comic/novella and changed bits??? Yeah, but it'd be like taking Harry Potter and setting it in Scotland as opposed to England, why? It's a completely unnecessary change. It doesn't add anything to the plot so all it serves to do is anger the people who know the original text. I get that stuff gets changed to make the story more appealing for the general audience, Kick Ass is probably the prime example. In the comics, He tells the girl he's Kick Ass and then she dumps him, starts going out with someone else and sends him a picture of her sucking some other guy's dick Now that's not Hollywood ending, so I can accept changing that. Changing the weapon from a flamethrower to a machine gun jetpack seemed a bit odd though, but whatever. Changing it from Canada to America does nothing. They made Deadpool a greatest hits of superpowers, which is just ridiculous and then they're gonna make him his own film? Awful, awfulness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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