Ira Gaines Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Cardinal Richelieu, on 03 Mar 2015 - 23:33, said:Surely the ref must have been in on it? I mean, we've seen so many 2 and 19/20th counts that the ref would have to have superhuman reflexes in order to stop his hand from counting 3? Probably. Just saying that if a referee counts a three and the shoulders stayed down, the referee is right. He would have been told RIGHT before the finish in this case if he was just going with the flow. Going back to Kurt Angle/Shawn Michaels from Mania 21 where Angle kicked out after the three and nobody came out of that looking good. Angle was actually a serial offender in that regard, but that's probably the most famous example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Surely the ref must have been in on it? I mean, we've seen so many 2 and 19/20th counts that the ref would have to have superhuman reflexes in order to stop his hand from counting 3? Unless I've totally got the wrong end of the stick There'll probably be a few occasions where that's the case but normally it's up to the wrestler to kick out before the three count. The referees are trained to count to three regardless of situation. I think recently the Stardust-Goldust thing at Fastlane is an example. Cody took too long to kick out and the ref signalled for the bell. Although it looked like the ref fucked up a bit with the third count. I was considering that it was going to be an angle for a rematch but it hasn't been mentioned again so it probably was just a botched finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJM77 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Going by SD spoilers.. We won't get Stardust/Goldust at all at Mania and Goldust will be in the IC ladder match instead, getting a tad crowded that is, is that 7 people now? Edited March 4, 2015 by RJM77 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 One more to match the more entertaining Money in the Bank ladder matches of recent times. So as far as I'm concerned, not enough guys are in it yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'd love it if miz and mizdow were in the ladder match and mizdow screwes miz the same way he did Cody when he won mitb a few years ago. That would get a great pop although I have my reservations about mizdow being IC champ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Going by SD spoilers.. We won't get Stardust/Goldust at all at Mania and Goldust will be in the IC ladder match instead, getting a tad crowded that is, is that 7 people now? 8 so far. I'd love it if miz and mizdow were in the ladder match and mizdow screwes miz the same way he did Cody when he won mitb a few years ago. That would get a great pop although I have my reservations about mizdow being IC champ. Miz and Mizdow are already confirmed for the Andre the Giant Battle Royal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 They should have fucking had a MITB match! It would be a lot more meaningful than fighting over the albatross that is the IC title. It would be fun if there were 2 MITB holders. You could imagine them both running out to cash in, only to start scrapping and the champ to smash them with his finisher. Or them knowing the other will cash in on them if they cash in. It would be something different. One of the MITB holders (Rollins) could have someone take out the other, letting them cash in and win. The other guy is off TV for a month or so, with no one knowing when they'll return, leading to Rollins being uber paranoid. It would be quality. Oh and Ambrose is winning this match. He would be ideal as the other MITB holder in my scenario as well. It could then lead to an Shield triple threat for the title at Summerslam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdogunderdog underdog Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 They should have fucking had a MITB match! It would be a lot more meaningful than fighting over the albatross that is the IC title. It would be fun if there were 2 MITB holders. You could imagine them both running out to cash in, only to start scrapping and the champ to smash them with his finisher. Or them knowing the other will cash in on them if they cash in. It would be something different. One of the MITB holders (Rollins) could have someone take out the other, letting them cash in and win. The other guy is off TV for a month or so, with no one knowing when they'll return, leading to Rollins being uber paranoid. It would be quality. Oh and Ambrose is winning this match. He would be ideal as the other MITB holder in my scenario as well. It could then lead to an Shield triple threat for the title at Summerslam. I like the sound of your idea. Something fresh and new. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Missed the first 45mins as it started at 12. Only missed the Authority and IC angle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Paul Heyman is just so far ahead of everyone else on the microphone it's unbelievable. Rollins is pretty good, and getting better; Punk, Austin and Rock were great; Heyman is in a class all of his own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellV1 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 That "Sting" promo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Madaschi Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Missed the first hour, but don't think i really missed that much, RAW's been quite shit tonight, again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Madaschi Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Rollins looks legit dead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieStevenson Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The mind games between Bray Wyatt & The Undertaker. Oaft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Paul Heyman could sell sand to an Arab. He's just so fucking good at what he does, easily the best non-wrestler speaker in the business today, maybe ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieStevenson Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 JBL giving Gary Anderson a wee mention though! Pleasing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Paul Heyman could sell sand to an Arab. He's just so fucking good at what he does, easily the best non-wrestler speaker in the business today, maybe ever. There's no maybe about it, best promo guy there's been...wrestler or otherwise. Edited March 10, 2015 by Christophe -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He's not better than Ric Flair in the 80s. Or Piper. Or even Rock from modern times. I think people sometimes forget just how good some of these guys were. Even Dusty Rhodes cut better promos. This isn't a knock on Heyman. People need to reel it in though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He's not better than Ric Flair in the 80s. Or Piper. Or even Rock from modern times. I think people sometimes forget just how good some of these guys were. Even Dusty Rhodes cut better promos. This isn't a knock on Heyman. People need to reel it in though. Yup. Rock, Piper and Austin were all the very top for me. He's the best non-wrestling speaker though, for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Worst Mania build-up of all time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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