Walking Down The Halbeath Road

[CallumPar]

Just did a bit more analysis of our record under Yogi.

Failed to score in 7 of our 11 away games. Scored a total of 6 goals in total in the 11 games, meaning an average of 0.55 goals per game, thanks to scoring 2 away to QoS and Hamilton. We’ve conceded in 9 of the 11 away games, total goals conceded is 17 (1.55 goals per game). Looking at that, it’s a bit of a miracle we managed to get 6 points in those 11 games.

For comparison, in Grant’s 6 away games we scored the same number of goals as we have in Yogi’s 11 and our goals conceded per game ratio was 1.83 (not too much higher than Yogi’s 1.55). Yogi has improved our home performances but it’s certainly not got any better away from home.

At home, we’ve scored 17 in 10 games (1.7 per game) and conceded 10 (1 per game). Only failed to score twice and kept 4 clean sheets. He’s certainly turned round our home form, but we’re no better away from home than we were before he arrived. So many performances away from home have been every bit as bad as Saturday, where you can’t see where any goal was supposed to come from.

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8 minutes ago, CallumPar said:

Just did a bit more analysis of our record under Yogi.

Failed to score in 7 of our 11 away games. Scored a total of 6 goals in total in the 11 games, meaning an average of 0.55 goals per game, thanks to scoring 2 away to QoS and Hamilton. We’ve conceded in 9 of the 11 away games, total goals conceded is 17 (1.55 goals per game). Looking at that, it’s a bit of a miracle we managed to get 6 points in those 11 games.

For comparison, in Grant’s 6 away games we scored the same number of goals as we have in Yogi’s 11 and our goals conceded per game ratio was 1.83 (not too much higher than Yogi’s 1.55). Yogi has improved our home performances but it’s certainly not got any better away from home.

At home, we’ve scored 17 in 10 games (1.7 per game) and conceded 10 (1 per game). Only failed to score twice and kept 4 clean sheets. He’s certainly turned round our home form, but we’re no better away from home than we were before he arrived. So many performances away from home have been every bit as bad as Saturday, where you can’t see where any goal was supposed to come from.

Only solution is Yogi managing home games and Crawford in for the away games.

Saturday was utterly bizzare and if we don't get a more familiar line up on Saturday (regardless of Donaldson's injury) then I'm extremely pessimistic about the playoffs.

[R.R.FC]

6 minutes ago, CallumPar said:

Just did a bit more analysis of our record under Yogi.

Failed to score in 7 of our 11 away games. Scored a total of 6 goals in total in the 11 games, meaning an average of 0.55 goals per game, thanks to scoring 2 away to QoS and Hamilton. We’ve conceded in 9 of the 11 away games, total goals conceded is 17 (1.55 goals per game). Looking at that, it’s a bit of a miracle we managed to get 6 points in those 11 games.

For comparison, in Grant’s 6 away games we scored the same number of goals as we have in Yogi’s 11 and our goals conceded per game ratio was 1.83 (not too much higher than Yogi’s 1.55). Yogi has improved our home performances but it’s certainly not got any better away from home.

At home, we’ve scored 17 in 10 games (1.7 per game) and conceded 10 (1 per game). Only failed to score twice and kept 4 clean sheets. He’s certainly turned round our home form, but we’re no better away from home than we were before he arrived. So many performances away from home have been every bit as bad as Saturday, where you can’t see where any goal was supposed to come from.

Probably just a coincidence but we had the same issue with Hughes, the difference in results away from home compared to at home was wild.

In his 13 league games in charge of us, our record was:

Home

Played: 6     
Won: 4   
Draws: 2    
Lost: 0   
Goals for: 10   
Goals against: 4

Away

Played: 7   
Won: 0    
Draws: 0   
Lost: 7   
Goals for: 3   
Goals against: 17

His away form with you seems pretty decent by comparison!

[Rob1885]

Only solution is Yogi managing home games and Crawford in for the away games.
Saturday was utterly bizzare and if we don't get a more familiar line up on Saturday (regardless of Donaldson's injury) then I'm extremely pessimistic about the playoffs.

We never won an away game all season under Crawford [emoji23][emoji23]

[CallumPar]

Probably just a coincidence but we had the same issue with Hughes, the difference in results away from home compared to at home was wild.
In his 13 league games in charge of us, our record was:
Home
Played: 6     
Won: 4   
Draws: 2    
Lost: 0   
Goals for: 10   
Goals against: 4
Away
Played: 7   
Won: 0    
Draws: 0   
Lost: 7   
Goals for: 3   
Goals against: 17
His away form with you seems pretty decent by comparison!

Wow. That’s horrendous. At least with you guys, he kind of had the excuse of not having his own players and the whole Vaughan scenario. With us, he’s signed 7 players himself and handed out extensions to another 3/4. He also chose to loan out Wighton, unlike the Vaughan scenario, where that was done before he joined. He also loaned out our only cover for either full back slot and then played a young midfielder there when he decided to drop Comrie. Having said that, I think that’s actually Todd’s best position, he’s played quite well there.

He also brought in Alexander as a player/coach, rather than an ageing outfield player being emergency goalkeeping cover. So he’s maybe learned something from his spell at Raith.

[DA Baracus]

15 minutes ago, Rob1885 said:

We never won an away game all season under Crawford

He won one.

Apparently it was the game that convinced the club that Peter Grant was the right man for the job as, despite his team getting a 1-4 pumping, Grant's team played 'good football'.

Edited April 25, 2022 by DA Baracus

[Rob1885]

He won one.
Apparently it was the game that convinced the club that Peter Grant was the right man for the job as, despite his team getting a 1-4 pumping, Grant's team played 'good football'.

Aye, some laugh.

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1 hour ago, Rob1885 said:

We never won an away game all season under Crawford

1 win will do me lad.

[Cardle is Magic]

By my calculations, if you include play-off matches, we have won 17 of our last 82 away league games.

Edited April 26, 2022 by Cardle is Magic

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6 hours ago, Cardle is Magic said:

By my calculations, if you include play-off matches, we have won 17 of our last 82 away league games.

Absolutely chronic and yet still have a decent traveling support. Amazing that any of us bother really.

[The Toun Clock]

Ross Graham nominated for young player of the year in Scotland. Are there two Ross Graham's, the guy honestly looked like he'd never played football before at the start of the season. He's now played a handful of games against better opposition and is nominated for an award.

Is it our coaches, are we incapable of managing/coaching players?

[CallumPar]

Ross Graham nominated for young player of the year in Scotland. Are there two Ross Graham's, the guy honestly looked like he'd never played football before at the start of the season. He's now played a handful of games against better opposition and is nominated for an award.
Is it our coaches, are we incapable of managing/coaching players?

He only played in Peter Grant’s crazy system, where both Graham and Comrie were responsible for being centre halves and full backs at the same time. Both of them would have to try and mark both a striker and winger at the same time. I’m honestly not sure any defender is capable of the job both players were being asked to do every week. At least Graham has recovered, Comrie hasn’t been the same player since and was deservedly dropped recently.

Regarding coaches, I’m a bit concerned about the lack of player progression in general this season. I’d probably argue that Todd, McCann and Edwards have improved as players this season (only since Yogi came in, to be fair). I don’t think anyone else has. I’d also argue Comrie, Wighton and Dow have regressed - in Dow’s case his injury could be an excuse for that. The other 2 are surely caused by coaching/management. We also have players that should be good enough at this level, but just haven’t been. Dorrans, Lawless and Polworth seem to come with reputations that suggest we should be getting more out of them than we have.

I would have expected to see more progression in the likes of Paul Allan, Kyle MacDonald and Rhys Breen. But we’ve not really seen much of any of them. They’re all 22 now, so it’s not a good sign that they can’t get a game in this horrendous team. I’d imagine Todd’s now ahead of MacDonald in the RB pecking order too.

[Cardle is Magic]

Isn't MacDonald on loan at Airdrie?

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50 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:

Isn't MacDonald on loan at Airdrie?

Yeh and scored on Saturday in their 5-0 win.

Edited April 26, 2022 by 101
5-0 not 5-1

[CallumPar]

Isn't MacDonald on loan at Airdrie?

Yes, he is. But that doesn’t change the fact that he’s our player and didn’t progress in that first part of the season, under Grant or Hughes. He was our player for the first 23 league games of the season, so it’s not like he’s been on loan all season. The fact Yogi then loaned him out, despite not having any other natural full back cover available certainly suggests he isn’t deemed to be good enough. He also only seems to have 5 appearances for Airdrie, not sure if he’s been injured though.

In his time here, it probably didn’t help that Yogi tried to make him a winger and then dropped him. But, again, that seems to back up my point about mismanagement/poor coaching being a bit of an issue, no?

[Heaton]

Yeah further changes are needed in the coaching squad whether Yogi is still here or not. Hopefully not..

[Cardle is Magic]

Just about every team at this level makes significant squad changes every season, so few worries there.

It's a consequence of teams not being able to provide long-term contracts and the wages being so low. Squad churn will continue to happen, although we seem to have a core group signed up for next year.

[Stellaboz]

Shit is bad that when we play our strongest 4 at the back, the  core of our team is loan players i.e. Goalie and 2 centre backs. 

[DA Baracus]

Ross Graham looked ridiculously bad at East End.

According to Dundee United fans, he's been great for them, and he's looked decent in highlights. He's now a first team regular there.

Just another damning indictment on Grant and the morons who appointed him.

[DAFC.]

Almost 100% of fans were against Peter Grant as manager right from the get-go, and the board didn't listen. I know the fans aren't in charge, but the board should be listening to fans when ti comes to these things or they'll take massive hits to the coffers. It was clear how much of a fail it was when the uptake in season tickets was so poor.

They need to listen to the fans this time around. It might not be universal as Peter Grant, but the overwhelming majority want Yogi gone regardless what league we are in. If he keeps us up, he should be thanked for his services, and let go with a decent pay-off so we can actually progress as a club. But that ain't realistic, is it? I'm fairly confident he'll be binned if we go down (there'll probably be a relegation clause somewhere) but can't see him going if we stay up, unfortunately. The season ticket sales will be fucking dreadful again. 

Hopefully this new CEO can see what we all see, do the right thing, bin this walking cliche and open up applications to appoint someone that is at least living in the modern world.