DA Baracus Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, 101 said: Let's be honest we would be fishing in the lower end of the English National League, perhaps the mid table Welsh teams (who would pick Scottish L1 over European football) and some of the Northern Irish guys who want to leave N.I. And then maybe some Irish league managers but their season isn't long underway. I don't think we are a massively attractive option especially considering we have gone through 3 managers in 12 months anyone seriously relocating would be thinking how long is it going to last. So how did Ayr appoint Bullen? Just now, Bairnardo said: I bet Mixu Paatalainen is still knocking about aswell. What's the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Anyway... League Cup draw tomorrow! No more regionalisation and we are in Pot 2. Pot 1 1 Ross County 2 Livingston 3 Hibernian 4 St Mirren 5 Aberdeen 6 St Johnstone 7 Dundee 8 Kilmarnock Pot 2 9 Arbroath 10 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 11 Partick Thistle 12 Raith Rovers 13 Hamilton Academical 14 Morton 15 Ayr United 16 Dunfermline Athletic Pot 3 17 Queen of the South 18 Cove Rangers 19 Airdrieonians 20 Montrose 21 Queen's Park 22 Alloa Athletic 23 Falkirk 24 Peterhead Pot 4 25 Clyde 26 Dumbarton 27 East Fife 28 Kelty Hearts 29 Forfar Athletic 30 Annan Athletic 31 Edinburgh City 32 Stenhousemuir Pot 5 33 Stranraer 34 Stirling Albion 35 Albion Rovers 36 Elgin City 37 Cowdenbeath 38 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic 39 Fraserburgh 40 Buckie Thistle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: So how did Ayr appoint Bullen? Ah I didn't realise you meant looking outwith Scotland for worse appointments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetableman Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 20/05/2022 at 18:55, Left Back said: Watching the stuff about Dunfermline getting city status on the news and Mrs. B asked where the nickname the Pars came from. Anyone care to enlighten me? I was under the impression it was the black and white being parallel lines A bit like this Parallel/Pars ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 You do realise we’re not some sort of massive catch paying life-changing wages? If St Mirren couldn’t afford to pay Oran Kearney enough for him to relocate from Belfast, I’m not convinced a Scottish league one side will be offering wages/job security that will have someone desperate to relocate here. We’re on the brink of appointing our third manager in 12 months and are in the Scottish third tier. Recruiting a manager from out with Scotland would likely be a challenge. Not impossible, but certainly challenging. That’s before factoring in work permits and the issues that come with that, for anyone from out with the UK.We were one of the worst teams in the league last season and managed to get Lee Bullen to come up from Sheffield. It’s certainly possible to get managers that aren’t on the merry go round in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: No, I think we're a huge club who chuck out massive wages. Folk from outwith Scotland definitely never apply for jobs in Scotland. There's definitely no examples of folk in England applying for jobs in Scottish football and getting one from last season either. Zero, none. I didn’t say it was impossible, just pointed out some of the challenges. Outside of Rangers/Celtic, who do offer life changing wages, there aren’t many teams who attract managers from further afield. Obviously Hibs have just done it as well, but the difference in wages on offer and the attractiveness of the job compared to ours is enormous. Some Scottish managers look to return back to Scotland/the UK to progress their coaching careers (Glass, Maloney etc), some non-Scots/non-British managers also see it as a platform to prove themselves and get a bigger move. Some managers just back themselves and like a challenge, so come to Scotland. But you really can’t ignore that a club that have had major issues on and off the field and have been relegated to the third tier of Scottish football isn’t an attractive proposition for a manager, never mind one for them to relocate themselves and their family for. If nobody from outside Scotland applied, then why would we go out of our way to try and headhunt someone like that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: Anyway... League Cup draw tomorrow! No more regionalisation and we are in Pot 2. Pot 1 1 Ross County 2 Livingston 3 Hibernian 4 St Mirren 5 Aberdeen 6 St Johnstone 7 Dundee 8 Kilmarnock Pot 2 9 Arbroath 10 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 11 Partick Thistle 12 Raith Rovers 13 Hamilton Academical 14 Morton 15 Ayr United 16 Dunfermline Athletic Pot 3 17 Queen of the South 18 Cove Rangers 19 Airdrieonians 20 Montrose 21 Queen's Park 22 Alloa Athletic 23 Falkirk 24 Peterhead Pot 4 25 Clyde 26 Dumbarton 27 East Fife 28 Kelty Hearts 29 Forfar Athletic 30 Annan Athletic 31 Edinburgh City 32 Stenhousemuir Pot 5 33 Stranraer 34 Stirling Albion 35 Albion Rovers 36 Elgin City 37 Cowdenbeath 38 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic 39 Fraserburgh 40 Buckie Thistle Glad that they've punted regionalisation. Meant too many repetitive ties. As always, would like to see some good away trips (not midweek though!). 9 minutes ago, 101 said: Ah I didn't realise you meant looking outwith Scotland for worse appointments. Must have missed Ayr's relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said: Anyway... League Cup draw tomorrow! No more regionalisation and we are in Pot 2. Pot 1 1 Ross County 2 Livingston 3 Hibernian 4 St Mirren 5 Aberdeen 6 St Johnstone 7 Dundee 8 Kilmarnock Pot 2 9 Arbroath 10 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 11 Partick Thistle 12 Raith Rovers 13 Hamilton Academical 14 Morton 15 Ayr United 16 Dunfermline Athletic Pot 3 17 Queen of the South 18 Cove Rangers 19 Airdrieonians 20 Montrose 21 Queen's Park 22 Alloa Athletic 23 Falkirk 24 Peterhead Pot 4 25 Clyde 26 Dumbarton 27 East Fife 28 Kelty Hearts 29 Forfar Athletic 30 Annan Athletic 31 Edinburgh City 32 Stenhousemuir Pot 5 33 Stranraer 34 Stirling Albion 35 Albion Rovers 36 Elgin City 37 Cowdenbeath 38 Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic 39 Fraserburgh 40 Buckie Thistle Aberdeen (A) never seen us play there so would be nice to tick it off Cove (A) again never been and would avoid a tie against a team in our league Dumbarton (H) again not a team in our league Fraserburgh/Cowdenbeath (H) either for something new or something nostalgic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Killie, Pars, Queens, Kelty and Buckie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumPar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I don’t really understand the argument that someone from outwith Scotland with no managerial experience would be more exciting than a manager who got a side promoted from the championship last year. At the end of a season that we’ve seen Maloney and Glass come and completely fail, I don’t think that’s the sort of risk we need to be taking. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinions and if that’s what you’d prefer, fair enough. Even Bullen, all he’s really achieved is his Ayr team not being as bad as Hughes’ Dunfermline. That being said, I hope he learns from this season and has a good career in management. I can understand people wanting someone a bit different, but this thread just goes to show that no option available to us would have got everyone (or anyone?) particularly excited. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Hibs, Pars, Alloa, Clyde and Elgin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyPar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, CallumPar said: I don’t really understand the argument that someone from outwith Scotland with no managerial experience would be more exciting than a manager who got a side promoted from the championship last year. At the end of a season that we’ve seen Maloney and Glass come and completely fail, I don’t think that’s the sort of risk we need to be taking. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinions and if that’s what you’d prefer, fair enough. Even Bullen, all he’s really achieved is his Ayr team not being as bad as Hughes’ Dunfermline. That being said, I hope he learns from this season and has a good career in management. I can understand people wanting someone a bit different, but this thread just goes to show that no option available to us would have got everyone (or anyone?) particularly excited. Add Rennie to your list, which was in the same league we're trying to get out of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, smpar said: Hibs, Pars, Alloa, Clyde and Elgin. Would definitely want to avoid teams we're going to be playing four times next season anyway. For me, it would be Aberdeen, Cove, East Fife and Fraserburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Scarf picture announced. McPake confirmed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 year deal. Nice to see his mention of ambition without having to use the phrase “back to where we belong.” Bonus points for that. Interesting to see Cook describing this year in League One as a ‘reset moment for the club.’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 "ThIs Is a PrEmieRshIp CluB" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyPar Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 No mention of staff. Do we think Shields will still be in the dugout? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParsJake Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Not just a massive club, but a "prestigious club". I am on board already. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toun Clock Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I hope Shields is pointed more towards the academy, similar to what he was doing in America. Let McPake bring in his own staff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Looks like his record of giving youth players a chance is what swung it for the board. What youth players do we actually have though? Is the academy ready to be producing players yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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