Pars fan Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 what are people's thoughts on killing lydia? walt didn't know that she had threatened his family at that point and he seemed to do it just for the sake of it. edit also Walt would have known Lydia was responsible for Todd etc. showing up to threaten Skylar. He would also not want anymore blue meth being made without his input, Lydia would have kept it going after he died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Pretty much as expected, still a great show though. Probably the best I've ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 and one more for good measure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Walt would have known Lydia was responsible for Todd etc. showing up to threaten Skylar. He would also not want anymore blue meth being made without his input, Lydia would have kept it going after he died. he didn't know that skylar had been threatened when he decided to kill her though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Just brilliant. I haven't been as gutted to see the end of a show since Oz many moons ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Walt killing Lydia has nothing to do with Skylar, Walt would have known long before he made his proposition to them that as soon as he left the Diner Lydia would instruct Todd to kill him, just like what happened to Mike's men when they stopped being useful and started being a way for her to get caught. Walt didn't kill Lydia because she made Todd et al threaten Skylar, he did it because he knew she was going to order his assasination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) That was after the meeting with Lydia and Todd, wasn't it? he met with lydia and todd before going to skylars. Right, well fair enough. He'd still know how Lydia likes to tie up loose ends and as Pars fan says, the blue meth would still continue with Lydia so even if he failed to kill all the Nazis, the blue meth production would stop without Lydia (both her selling it and when she started being able to get Methylmine) edit: also what J_Stewart said. Edited September 30, 2013 by forehead7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars fan Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 he didn't know that skylar had been threatened when he decided to kill her though. Fair enough, but he would have assumed Lydia was trouble and would probably have done something to cover her back eventually. The fact that the blue meth was still being made is important as he was pretty pissed off it was still going on without him. Killing her would prevent more being made. It had to die with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ding ding.jpg brilliant.Can't be ringed going through 30 pages to check so apologies if these have been posted already 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Ponce Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 One of my favourite moments was Walt admitting that he did it for him and that he liked it and even though he was a pissy wee bitch for most of the time I was kinda chuffed seeing Jesse get away at the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 My biggest question is, how long did Huel stay in that hotel room? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenMonster Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 My biggest question is, how long did Huel stay in that hotel room? Have you not seen advert for the comedy spin-off show in which his family come to stay with him in the hotel room, its called Huell's Rules . Its not real it was a Funny Or Die sketch, their writers obviously had the same question as you . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Fair enough, but he would have assumed Lydia was trouble and would probably have done something to cover her back eventually. The fact that the blue meth was still being made is important as he was pretty pissed off it was still going on without him. Killing her would prevent more being made. It had to die with him. i thought he was pissed off about the blue meth because it meant that jesse was still alive? what's the consensus on jesse? he seems pretty fucked considering he is a wanted man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) The fact that the blue meth was still being made is important as he was pretty pissed off it was still going on without him. Killing her would prevent more being made. It had to die with him. Seems very inconsistent with Walt leaving the blue meth to Lydia at the end of 5a. In his own words 'I left you a viable operation' - he was happy for her and Declan to cook it then. I'm not sure how much of a wanted man Jesse will be. Skyler and Marie know about him, but it may have been presumed that he died in the desert. There is nothing to say he was held captive by the Nazis and there didn't seem to be a massive manhunt for him as there was with Walt. This would, however, be complicated by the fact that the DEA will find Hank and Gomie's bodies but not Jesse's. Personally I think as long as he gets far enough away from New Mexico he'll be fine, but that may prove difficult given he doesn't seem to have any money at all. Edited September 30, 2013 by The OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html emily nausbaumm hits the the nail on the head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) I'm not sure how much of a wanted man Jesse will be. Skyler and Marie know about him, but it may have been presumed that he died in the desert. There is nothing to say he was held captive by the Nazis and there didn't seem to be a massive manhunt for him as there was with Walt. This would, however, be complicated by the fact that the DEA will find Hank and Gomie's bodies but not Jesse's. Personally I think as long as he gets far enough away from New Mexico he'll be fine, but that may prove difficult given he doesn't seem to have any money at all. he skipped bail and he is the last known alive person to be with two DEA agents who are about to be dug up in the desert. he's fucked. he also handled the gun that shot jack. walt's plan for skylar 'to cut a deal' with the prosecutor with the location of the bodies is retarded as well. also walt told skylar to phone the DEA straight away then hung about to see walt junior come home from school..... Edited September 30, 2013 by T_S_A_R 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) he skipped bail and he is the last known alive person to be with two DEA agents who are about to be dug up in the desert. he's fucked. he also handled the gun that shot jack. The point was that he isn't known to be alive. His fingerprints would be overlapped by Walt's, given that Walt held the gun after Jesse did, so there is no guarantee that Jesse's would be picked up (this is assuming that he has ever been formally processed by the police, which I don't actually recall ever seeing in the series). The most retarded thing for me was that Walt would've required every Nazi to be in the clubhouse, the Nazis to allow him to park where he did, the Nazis not to search his boot, the Nazis to leave his keys within reach, the Nazis not to notice him getting his keys and Uncle Jack to not shoot him right away but instead want to take him inside and then take him outside to preserve his carpet, but not before establishing that Jesse was definitely not his partner. Edited September 30, 2013 by The OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Loved it. Would of liked to see Jessie's escape followed up a bit more. We know most people think he is in Alaska now anyway so wont be looking for him. I kinda wish he had got revenge for the Gray Matter stuff but the fact they will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives is enough for him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The point was that he isn't known to be alive. His fingerprints would be overlapped by Walt's, given that Walt held the gun after Jesse did, so there is no guarantee that Jesse's would be picked up (this is assuming that he has ever been formally processed by the police, which I don't actually recall ever seeing in the series). The most retarded thing for me was that Walt would've required every Nazi to be in the clubhouse, the Nazis not to search his boot, the Nazis to leave his keys within reach, the Nazis not to notice him getting his keys and Uncle Jack to not shoot him right away but instead want to take him inside and then take him outside to preserve his carpet, but not before establishing that Jesse was definitely not his partner. he was released on bail when saul came to get him from the police station this season. that means he was processed. also walter doesn't pick the gun up after jesse dropped it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Ponce Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I bet as a kid when you found out santa wasn't real you were straight into school the next day telling everyone that would listen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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