~~~ Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Labour MP on Scotland tonight defending Trident, Just like a good Tory, EDIT, we should keep trident so the cleaners at the base won't lose their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The SNP have no answer in the popularity stakes to the Monarchy,do they. If the YES campaign dropped the monarchy support, the pound and went more republican, they wouldn't hit 10% in the referendum. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Oh f**k, following the newsnight comments on twitter and look who pops up! https://twitter.com/peterdow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Oh f**k, following the newsnight comments on twitter and look who pops up! https://twitter.com/peterdow I've had a couple of spats with that particular nutter on twitter. He's not a poster on here is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Today's events have been a wonderful example of why I got my arse of the fence and declared myself in favour.These insular numpties keep getting away with lying to the public, manipulating facts and serving their own political interests - and there is nothing holding them to account, even when there's public outcry they just ignore it and wait for it to blow over.Give it a week and I bet it will be as if Osbourne had never made his ignorant comment and the story about Cameron (claiming we need trident to defend against a nation that are so far away we can't even nuke them with our better weaponry) will have been forgotten about by most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 One day Johann Lamont is saying that the oil boom is all a dirty nat lie...the next day she says this: http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/7102-oil-industry-is-booming-except-when-discussing-scottish-independence Does she take us for idiots??? Unionists have more faces than the town clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've had a couple of spats with that particular nutter on twitter. He's not a poster on here is he? He was once upon a time. It was laugh a minute when his topics popped up. That said, he is clearly a deeply troubled individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Sergio Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 One day Johann Lamont is saying that the oil boom is all a dirty nat lie...the next day she says this: http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/7102-oil-industry-is-booming-except-when-discussing-scottish-independence Does she take us for idiots??? Unionists have more faces than the town clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Jeezus Paulo! That should carry a government health warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If the YES campaign dropped the monarchy support, the pound and went more republican, they wouldn't hit 10% in the referendum. IMHO It's ironic that the SNPs best weapons towards independence appear to be quintessentially British. Scotland is British. 300 years of Union cannot be swept under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Sergio Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 This referendum isn't about Scotland leaving Britain. It's about Scotland leaving the United Kingdom. The trolling gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If the YES campaign dropped the monarchy support, the pound and went more republican, they wouldn't hit 10% in the referendum. IMHO Firstly, I think you're confusing Yes Scotland for the SNP. The highlighted parts are the same thing! The 10% thing is utter bollocks. I doubt much of the 'core' Yes support is particulalry monarchist and would vote yes regardless. Politically, supporting keeping the monarchy is about not scaring away soft No voters and undecideds. I seriously doubt many Yes voters would switch if the SNP announced they wouldn't keep the pound. AFAIK, they've stated it's essentially an intermediate step and the currency issue will be decided later. I seriously doubt an independent Scotland would still be using the pound 20 years after independence. Keeping the pound in the short term at least is an entirely sensible decision that doesn't really have any political 'ulterior motives' that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 wouldn't be suprised if prince philip dropped dead a few weeks before the referendum I wonder how people (and be assured there would be some) could justify changing their vote from yes to no in that event? It would imply they didn't like the Duke. I do because he says it as he sees it, right or wrong and he's given us a few laughs over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 At the risk of sounding dull, I dont think mocking female politicians based on their photos is very fair. They face enough sexism as it is, and without doubt in the case of Lamont, there is enough else to mock her for! I think making fun of her looking terrifying in artwork is one thing, but photos, not so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assasinach Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 the new relationship has got to be better. they can get over their sadistic tendencies and embrace their masochistic selves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 At the risk of sounding dull, I dont think mocking female politicians based on their photos is very fair. They face enough sexism as it is, and without doubt in the case of Lamont, there is enough else to mock her for! I think making fun of her looking terrifying in artwork is one thing, but photos, not so much! Totally agree, she should be shown the exact same contempt as Cameron, Milliband & co.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Sergio Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 At the risk of sounding dull, I dont think mocking female politicians based on their photos is very fair. They face enough sexism as it is, and without doubt in the case of Lamont, there is enough else to mock her for! I think making fun of her looking terrifying in artwork is one thing, but photos, not so much! I know where you're coming from, but I'm not slagging the way she looks. I'm just slagging the fact that she is a moaning, slavering cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Well the PM has come out and said he won't debate with the FM as it's a decision for Scots alone - despite numerous papers flying out of Westminster and him being up here yesterday campaigning for the union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Well the PM has come out and said he won't debate with the FM as it's a decision for Scots alone - despite numerous papers flying out of Westminster and him being up here yesterday campaigning for the union. one simple reason- he'd lose. whatever people think of Salmonmd, few if any UK politicians can touch him in debate. William Hague is probabaly a better orator, but in terms of rough n tumble knockabout Salmond is ahead of everyone else IMO: That said Cameron's position is a joke...why was he up here in the first place if not to lend a hand to the pro-UNion campaign? Even he finally seems to have twigged that the more he and his ilk come up here, the more support for independence goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I was having a wee blether with someone yesterday about this, Cameron either is secretely wanting Scotland to bugger off, or he genuinely is brain dead. I suspect the latter. One thing about your post - if the PM of the 'United Kingdom' can't come up here and campaign, that tells you a hell of a lot about the actual union. He should be able to come up and take part in debates, he should be able to come up and campaign, but it is looking more and more likely that he can't. A couple of questions for the unionists - even if we lose the referendum, why has the union allowed Scotland to get to this? And if we are such an economic basket case where no-one will trade with us, why has this been allowed to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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