Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 guess who i don't have to share a birthday with anymore Lenny Bruce? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lenny Bruce? true story 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) The operative word being should. Thatcher was a human being. Whether or not she acted in conscience and acted towards others in a spirit of brotherhood is really neither here nor there. Human rights don't depend on mutuality. We are obliged not to torture torturers. I would suggest that the spirit of the UDHR is such that a failure to adhere to this principle would render a person likely to surrender any right to reasonably expect respect, if not human rights (and therein lies the distinction). Edit for clarification. Edited April 8, 2013 by Drooper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Been posted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I would suggest that the spirit of the UDHR is such that a failure to adhere to this principle would render a person likely to surrender any right to reasonably expect respect, if not human rights (and therein lies the distinction). Edit for clarification. Human rights are but one product of respect for human dignity. If there is no dignity in death, there is no respect, and there is no basis for human rights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessWhoIAm Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 She's DEAD, not 'deid', moron. And all of you entertaining the matter any further without correcting OP first are just as much a moron. Useless thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Ad Lib is such a typical Lib Dem. He even makes the few good things that the Tories manage to do seem shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Ad Lib is such a typical Lib Dem. He even makes the few good things that the Tories manage to do seem shit. What? Please explain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 the worst thing about that is whoever set up the facebook page has spelled it deed instead of deid. Or even 'died'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Or even 'died'. listen you imperialist pigdog even if i was speaking her majestys english instead o the guid scots leid what fucking sense would "thatcher is died" make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 What? Please explain? Today, the Tories finally managed to do something that was welcomed in Scotland. Its taken a long time to achieve. Normally, everything the coalition do turns to fail up here. Well for once, the Tories accomplished something pro Scottish, and here you are, making it sound like a bad thing! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 And Nelson Mandela outlived her. Go on yersel Madiba. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Patterson Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I was waitingfor Manchester's greatest troll to share his thoughts....http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-morrissey-blasts-1818903 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Today, the Tories finally managed to do something that was welcomed in Scotland. Its taken a long time to achieve. Normally, everything the coalition do turns to fail up here. Well for once, the Tories accomplished something pro Scottish, and here you are, making it sound like a bad thing! "The Tories" didn't "do" anything. An old lady suffered a stroke (something a lot of people die from) and passed away. I had hoped her passing would make people stop obsessively defining themselves by their support of or opposition to her politics. I've said here and in several other places that it's time our politics stopped critiquing her and her politics and her legacy and started to chart our own path. Not making independence about opposition to Thatcherism and instead just about making our own decisions to build a better society in the future would be a fine start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I wonder if Ad Lib whinged and whined so much at people being happy about the deaths of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I was hoping that Saville would have outlived her, just for him to say his special farewell to her in the coffin. It's what she would have wanted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I wonder if Ad Lib whinged and whined so much at people being happy about the deaths of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I doubt it. In relation to Bin Laden I made exactly the same points and faced similar opposition. Strikingly, much less indignation at making the points in the Bin Laden context than with the Thatcher one. Go figure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I've said here and in several other places that it's time our politics stopped critiquing her and her politics and her legacy and started to chart our own path. Not making independence about opposition to Thatcherism and instead just about making our own decisions to build a better society in the future would be a fine start. If you forget history you are bound to repeat it. Thatchers true legacy should be shouted from the rooftops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Quite embarrassing from our premier newspaper. We appear to lack class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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