mizfit Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Feel like I've received a kick in the balls here. Fucking sickening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 History will remember Yes voters as being correct imo. Independence only a matter of time now. Nah, don't agree with that. I'm under 30 and I don't think I'll ever see another referendum. Think we will see a leap towards Britain and a leap away from nationalism now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Polls were actually reasonably accurate in the end. Some shift to No on the day. westminster back tracking on "devo max" all ready. See you all in a generationAs I said all along, they were doing YES a favour.When it was 60/40, it was really 65/35, when it was 52/48 it was really 55/45. A lot easier to say yes to a pollster than say no. A lot easier to put a cross in the no box than... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Nah, don't agree with that. I'm under 30 and I don't think I'll ever see another referendum. Think we will see a leap towards Britain and a leap away from nationalism now. I think it depends on the number of people who were swayed by the offer of extra powers and whether or not these materialise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Nah, don't agree with that. I'm under 30 and I don't think I'll ever see another referendum. Think we will see a leap towards Britain and a leap away from nationalism now. Have to agree with you bud. Once in a lifetime opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthEnclosure Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Utter stupidiity rejected. Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Killington Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It only has to be yes once, it has to be no forever. Hopefully next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravabelli Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The only nationalism that will rise now will be English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just clocked this: "Hope you enjoyed the limelight Scotland. Think it's now time for English votes for English laws." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Any civil unrest yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthEnclosure Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It only has to be yes once, it has to be no forever. Hopefully next time. Better luck in 50 years time but the NO vote won't be so lazy then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well I am gutted, but that is democracy. Was it project fear that won it? Maybe. I think the currency issue was a big mistake for Salmond he backed himself into a corner, and people were not prepared to risk pensions etc. Not sure if Europe was a huge issue as we are closer to leaving today than we were yesterday. Now we need to see what extra powers will come our way. Will their be a genuine effort to involve all parties? Or will Lamont rush to a vote of no confidence in the First Minister? Cameron has appointed Lord Smith to bring forward the Scottish proposals. But I guess what this has done is shake up the whole of Britain. Cameron now wants the West Lothian question addressed. A tricky one for Labour given their Scottish votes. So the two year journey is over. I wonder if I will ever see another vote. I am not sure if this is a generation thing. We have 1 Tory MP, we once had 20. But Independence is still a distant object. Labour leaked votes to yes , but still not enough. What is clear is that we are still in for a fascinating time in UK and Scottish politics. Westminster elections next year will be very difficult to call. Even more interesting in my opinion will be the next Holyrood elections. It will depend I guess on what Government we get in London, but I think Lamont and Labour will struggle to wrestle Holyrood from the SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Time to pull together folks. Whether you like it or not the majority of Scots think we can make the Union work. Let's make the best of what we have and try to produce a modern democratic multinational state we can be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney21 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Nigel Farage,s partys take on it "when the Scots BOTTLE it and they WILL" lots down south hold this opinion and boy were they proved right! FEARTIES is what the majority are,Johann Lament had it right as well,Scots are not genetically programmed to make the big decisions,we have had in this country for hundreds of years people that do not think of themselves primarily as Scottish they have fought for and alongside of the crown even against their own countryman so no chance are they ever going to go against the establishment,my consolation is that 1.6mil have the "bottle" and desire for change, though expected the result I am still gutted,no wonder the English look down on us we have no PRIDE no gumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Time to pull together folks. Whether you like it or not the majority of Scots think we can make the Union work. Let's make the best of what we have and try to produce a modern democratic multinational state we can be proud of. It was more of a case of not thinking we could make independence work, rather than thinking we could make the union work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well I am gutted, but that is democracy. Was it project fear that won it? Maybe. I think the currency issue was a big mistake for Salmond he backed himself into a corner, and people were not prepared to risk pensions etc. Not sure if Europe was a huge issue as we are closer to leaving today than we were yesterday. Now we need to see what extra powers will come our way. Will their be a genuine effort to involve all parties? Or will Lamont rush to a vote of no confidence in the First Minister? Cameron has appointed Lord Smith to bring forward the Scottish proposals. But I guess what this has done is shake up the whole of Britain. Cameron now wants the West Lothian question addressed. A tricky one for Labour given their Scottish votes. So the two year journey is over. I wonder if I will ever see another vote. I am not sure if this is a generation thing. We have 1 Tory MP, we once had 20. But Independence is still a distant object. Labour leaked votes to yes , but still not enough. What is clear is that we are still in for a fascinating time in UK and Scottish politics. Westminster elections next year will be very difficult to call. Even more interesting in my opinion will be the next Holyrood elections. It will depend I guess on what Government we get in London, but I think Lamont and Labour will struggle to wrestle Holyrood from the SNP. No - this is what will happen. The Tory backbenches will go into open revolt (as some were last night when the polls had barely shut) & the whole Devo Max thing will get quietly binned next year. The SNP vote will collapse in the same way it did post-79 as disillusioned voters start staying at home again, & it will take a generation to rebuild. Face it, Yes got cuffed, & that's all the mandate Westminster needs to say "the majority are happy with the way things are." If you thought things were bad now, here comes the real reckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Save me a bit of time and hopefully friends here - I stayed up until just after 3 and I'm trying to catch up with stuff, a lrge chunk of my FB friends are English and there's some right guff getting thrown my way .... has there been examples of the union flag being burned in Scotland ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 When Jim Murphy said on the TV this morning that "Scotland has showed confidence in itself by voting no", I had to change channels to Countdown on CH4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Can we get on with the real business at hand. When will we be bombing Iraq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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