H_B Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A brand new low for the patter on here. Ooh... Cutting criticism. Which would be all the more credible were it not being delivered by an adult who watches WWE wrestling. Unquestionably one of the most embarrassing things on the forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) Highland and Islands 3.5% swing to NO South Scotland 16.35% swing to NOCentral Scotalnd 5.2% swing to YES Mid Scotland and Fife 12.1% swing to YESGlasgow 11.35% swing to NOWest Scotalnd 1.85% swing to NOLothian 4.7% swing to NO North East 6.9% swing to NO Just NO trying to get all the pollsters on their side. There will be plenty of keyboards getting cleaned today, embarrassing. Edited August 9, 2014 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Ooh... Cutting criticism. Which would be all the more credible were it not being delivered by an adult who watches WWE wrestling. Unquestionably one of the most embarrassing things on the forum. Ironically that's an incredibly childish point to make, put across like a supercilious teenager. Way to go law squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Just to be clear here... The No campaign have got at Survation ? Did you have issues with the last Survation poll just out of interest ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Just to be clear here... The No campaign have got at Survation ? Did you have issues with the last Survation poll just out of interest ? I have an issue with all polls. They are all a pile of pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Look at Glasgow. Nae chance. 30% Yes 50% No. Every other poll has had a 5% gap give or take +/- yes/no. Not saying bias or any shite, but Glasgow looks very shady considering previous polling for that area. With the numbers polled the margin of error for individual areas is too low for any meaningful analysis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 He had a stinker but I'm no having a Darling win. Fucking 0-0 draw written all over it and should of been postponed halfway through. Heap o shite that debate. Next one has to be good. Not quite - a score draw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Not quite - a score draw. Re the next debate, Darling has dropped his big offensive weapon, and it didn't have quite the effect No had hoped for, even though the MSM are squeezing every last drop out it. With a better prepared Salmond next time and a Darling who's used his number one tactic, it should make it interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 As I've said all along its just wishing on a star. Certain posters are going to look absolutely ridiculous after the No vote with their continual pretence that polls aren't reflecting the true car sticker and Facebook like data that's really vital. I've said all along that we've got a situation similar to voting in the Thatcher era - the ones making the most noise aren't necessarily the ones that are winning. They'll be a lot of voters who quitely vote No unlike some of their Yes counterparts who seem to think that be-decking their homes or businesses (a certain pub in Dundee's Hilltown for example) in flags and Yes symbols somehow makes people change their minds. Yes have consistently ignored the one group of people who will decide this election - those soft No voters who are relatively well off, don't recognise the country that Yes thinks exists, and who see Yes as uncertainty to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Re the next debate, Darling has dropped his big offensive weapon, and it didn't have quite the effect No had hoped for, even though the MSM are squeezing every last drop out it. With a better prepared Salmond next time and a Darling who's used his number one tactic, it should make it interesting. If Salmond fekks it up they'll hang him out to dry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Well... lets call this a standing 8 count. Be interesting to see what Prof Curtice says It looks like Yes need tbe best recovery since the 2012 ryder cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I've said all along that we've got a situation similar to voting in the Thatcher era - the ones making the most noise aren't necessarily the ones that are winning. They'll be a lot of voters who quitely vote No unlike some of their Yes counterparts who seem to think that be-decking their homes or businesses (a certain pub in Dundee's Hilltown for example) in flags and Yes symbols somehow makes people change their minds. LOLWUT, For a man who's going to spoil his ballot paper you're remarkably biased. You seem to think it's only Yes supporters who are vociferous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Of course another factor that hasnt been considered is the incumbency bounce on the day for No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) LOLWUT, For a man who's going to spoil his ballot paper you're remarkably biased. You seem to think it's only Yes supporters who are vociferous.If you live in Dundee they are though.On a serious point though - the only canvassing I've seen done seems to be in the schemes or socially deprived areas. None of my friends or work colleagues have been canvassed at all - just find that very odd - especially considering some of them were canvassed in 2011 and voted SNP. If they do get round to canvass those sorts of areas it might be too late. Edited August 9, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Of course another factor that hasnt been considered is the incumbency bounce on the day for No I've mentioned this before... With reference to Quebec. I think Yes needed to be ahead by points before the day itself to deal with this. Its obviously a moot point in our referendum unlike the Québécois which was a proper close battle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If you live in Dundee they are though. This is very true... In some ways similar to the whole anti war thing.... Million man marches that led to.... Tony Blair being elected again with a large majority . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If you live in Dundee they are though. On a serious point though - the only canvassing I've seen done seems to be in the schemes or socially deprived areas. None of my friends or work colleagues have been canvassed at all - just find that very odd - especially considering some of them were canvassed in 2011 and voted SNP. If they do get round to canvass those sorts of areas it might be too late. No one I know has been canvassed either. All I'm saying is there are shouty people on both sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 The NCC nightshift was working hard last night. Were they making their normal hamfisted effort at burying yet more bad news for their failed campaign or something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 The reason the schemes have been canvassed is because for some reason Yes think they count more. Btw I dont believe the 30-50 figure in Glasgow will hold but I do think a good 30%+ of SNP 2011 voters will vote No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 The NCC nightshift was working hard last night. Were they making their normal hamfisted effort at burying yet more bad news for their failed campaign or something? I'm sure you were doing something far more productive on Twitter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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