forza ton Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Times certainly are a changing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Absolutely love how the cybernats now believe every yougov says and don't trust panelbase. Boy, times achanging.Someone's worried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Absolutely love how the cybernats now believe every yougov says and don't trust panelbase. Boy, times achanging. Back in your kennel, Scrappy Doo. The adults are conversing, which means you shouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Absolutely love how the cybernats now believe every yougov says and don't trust panelbase. Boy, times achanging. Au contraire my friend. It would seem your Westminster overlords certainly put credence into these polls. Hence the hastily cobbled together promise of even more super-duper powers. We, on the other hand will continue to visit high streets, knock on doors and give undecided friends, neighbours and workmates the facts. I can see the skidmark on your punders from here BTW. Unlucky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Au contraire my friend. It would seem your Westminster overlords certainly put credence into these polls. Hence the hastily cobbled together promise of even more super-duper powers. We, on the other hand will continue to visit high streets, knock on doors and give undecided friends, neighbours and workmates the facts. I can see the skidmark on your punders from here BTW. Unlucky. I'm chuffed at the poll. I'm absolutely *ucking ecstatic at the reaction from BTUKOKNOTHANKSIMVOTINGNOVOTELABOUR. It has been a most enjoyable day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIsleBud Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Rupert Murdoch now tweeting that private polling is showing YES up to 54% excluding Dk's. This is probably the time for the Sun to suddenly declare that it supported the Yes campaign all along..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIsleBud Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Murdoch also notes that the BBC have been heavily biased towards the NO campaign.....oh, my aching sides...the irony meter needs recalibration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Salmond made a very good point today on what I can only guess was the Andrew Marr show (saw the clip on the bbc website). Why is it only now, despite after postal votes being put in last week, that the Westminster government are even beginning to mention some of the possible powers which may be devolved? Surely this should've been outlined ages ago. The No campaign have truly spectacularly fucked up over the long term. The next two weeks are going to be truly fascinating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Absolutely love how the cybernats now believe every yougov says and don't trust panelbase. Boy, times achanging. They certainly are changing, as this is what you wrote only a few weeks ago.. but yougov have been the most accurate at polling Scottish samples in recent elections So tell me, are you claiming they are accurate or are you going to contradict yourself? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Just had a peak at Murdoch's twitter. Thanks for delivering the good news but that's plenty now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Rupert Murdoch now tweeting that private polling is showing YES up to 54% excluding Dk's. This is probably the time for the Sun to suddenly declare that it supported the Yes campaign all along..... Salmond's private polls - how is Murdoch getting hold of these? The Sun will back yes if it looks likely from the next round of polls (Survation, ICM, Ipsos Mori etc). It's what they do - see which way the wind's blowing and back it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We all know that Murdoch is a duplicitous shitehawk who has far more political power than anyone should, and not just domestic political power either. We also know that The Sun/The Times or any other Murdoch vehicle only do things to benefit themselves or Murdoch's ideology or whims, certainly not for the benefit of the electorate. With that all said, The Sun turning would be a key indicator and a useful tool in the campaign for a Yes vote. It won't make me buy The Sun or consider it and it's sister papers in any way more favourable though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We all know that Murdoch is a duplicitous shitehawk who has far more political power than anyone should, and not just domestic political power either. We also know that The Sun/The Times or any other Murdoch vehicle only do things to benefit themselves or Murdoch's ideology or whims, certainly not for the benefit of the electorate. With that all said, The Sun turning would be a key indicator and a useful tool in the campaign for a Yes vote. It won't make me buy The Sun or consider it and it's sister papers in any way more favourable though. I agree with you regards Murdoch. Would trust the Dirty Digger as far as I could throw him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1410092839.038313.jpg tbf the no side could do the same with Davidson Lamont and Rennie.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Obviously still a lot of work to be done, but that poll coming out last night was pleasing. Some very worried Rangers melters on my Facebook, as well as one staunch unionist suggesting that we should take note of all yes-voters and they would be responsible for bailing the country out when everything goes tits up Hilarious that just one poll putting yes in the lead has turned so many no-voters into seething messes. Imagine the scenes if we do actually get independence. Edited September 7, 2014 by lanky_ffc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Not sure I agree with all of it, but interesting article from Craig Murray. http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/when-the-push-polling-has-to-stop/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandGer Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not sure I agree with all of it, but interesting article from Craig Murray. http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/when-the-push-polling-has-to-stop/ Quite interesting analysis. I enjoyed this wee bit below, though. I received an invite from the National Library of Scotland to a post-referendum debrief at 9am on 19 September. Anybody sober at 9am on 19 September (unless having medical excuse) is not part of the New Scotland. But more crucially, the panel includes Henry McLeish and Michael Moore – and they want people to pay 35 pounds to listen to their words of wisdom. They really haven’t got it yet. Nobody will ever care what Moore and McLeish and their like have to say again, and the kind of democracy we will have will not involve paying substantial sums to hear pearls of wisdom drop from troughers on a pedestal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 TNS out tomorrow night. Should be interesting, though thier fieldwork is always about 2 weeks old by the time they come to publish. If YouGov is right and the huge swing is a very new phenomenon (if real at all) then this TNS poll will probably miss it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hilarious that just one poll putting yes in the lead has turned so many no-voters into seething messes. Imagine the scenes if we do actually get independence. Well, Yes voters have been tear-stained shambolic messes throughout the rest of the campaign, so I'm not sure why that would surprise you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Well, Yes voters have been tear-stained shambolic messes throughout the rest of the campaign, so I'm not sure why that would surprise you! Waaaaaayyyyyyyy! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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