Granny Danger Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I hadn't seen that! Oh, for a time machine! A Scot has just became the only known Time Lord, is that a coincidence? YES. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrysnotter Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/298664/Poll-Now-51-back-independence Surprised you are openly demonstrating that the campaign you have been part has gone backwards in the last 2 years, but fair play. Your doorstep persuasion must be as poor as your P&B content. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Hi Lex, nice of you to visit this forum. I like how, on the rare occasions you do come on here, you address the important issues and really get involved. What a guy. Sorry pal, I can't devote as much of my life to this site as you can ..would love to chat more Imagine if yes did actually get a 50% + poll? Polls would suddenly be seen as extremely accurate on here I'd wager. Edited August 23, 2014 by Lex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Sorry pal, I can't devote as much of my life to this site as you can ..would love to chat more Imagine if yes did actually get a 50% + poll? Polls would suddenly be seen as extremely accurate on here I'd wager. I don't need no stinking polls. We'll win. I'm confident of that. How's your mob looking for their first 3 points this weekend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Surprised you are openly demonstrating that the campaign you have been part has gone backwards in the last 2 years, but fair play. Your doorstep persuasion must be as poor as your P&B content. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) I don't need no stinking polls. We'll win. I'm confident of that. How's your mob looking for their first 3 points this weekend? They better no' get any!! Edited August 23, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I don't need no stinking polls. We'll win. I'm confident of that. How's your mob looking for their first 3 points this weekend? So if yes polled 50%+ you'd disregard it? .... You'd spontaneously combust. How are we looking for our first 3 points?... Eh, cause we lost our first 2 games! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 They better no' get any!! They won't, I was just shitting with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 So if yes polled 50%+ you'd disregard it? .... You'd spontaneously combust. How are we looking for our first 3 points?... Eh, cause we lost our first 2 games! I wouldn't go apeshit the way your mob have. Um, have you won a game yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) I actually feel sorry for H_B here.I know he's made a complete twat of himself with his dubiously-sourced definition - but do be honest the argument is like 2 bald men fighting over a comb. I think it's completely irrelevant in the context of the referendum debate.The whole nation, country, nation state argument goes round in circles because there's no agreed defintion. By HB's own dubious definition there are several European countries that would not pass the nation state test. For me the issue of self-determination goes beyond that - it's about a group of people deciding how they will pool their sovereignty. In some ways this referendum does provide some (but not complete) choice around the pooling of sovereignty. Edited August 23, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Nice try champ, but I don't think I'll be taking lectures on academic merit from someone who failed to get to doctorate level and works in IT. Because rather predictably, you don't have the credibility to do so. The Anthony C Pick of this forum then. Just let that sink in. Eh, I don't think I'll be taking any lectures at all from a graduate in a second rate subject like history. There were those of us who were good enough to study elite subjects... and those of us who ... well, weren't. Like you. Not that there's anything wrong with the likes of History, Geography, Fabrics and Fashion type courses - for those who, well know their level. And I have already provided a definition of the nation state :- "A sovereign state of which most of the citizens or subjects are united also by factors which define a nation, such as language or common descent:" You have singularly failed to do likewise. Not surprisingly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That's not particularly aimed at VT either - there's been some toppers pulled in as "expert witnesses" by the Glasgow Law School - I'm sure Confi will post them. It's actually the other way round. We've seen those who don't understand international law post utter nonsense on the subject, and be torn apart by Ad Lib and I as a consequence. Hence we had cluless idiots (like VT) claiming that a Scottish secession would see the UK break up and two equal entities emerge. A return to life of the Kingdom of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Ooft. The Anthony C Pick fan club is back for more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 What does Pick have to say about banter and how to do it properly? He's still waiting for his brothers to get back to him on that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Eh, I don't think I'll be taking any lectures at all from a graduate in a second rate subject like history. There were those of us who were good enough to study elite subjects... and those of us who ... well, weren't. Like you. Not that there's anything wrong with the likes of History, Geography, Fabrics and Fashion type courses - for those who, well know their level. And I have already provided a definition of the nation state :- "A sovereign state of which most of the citizens or subjects are united also by factors which define a nation, such as language or common descent:" You have singularly failed to do likewise. Not surprisingly. By that definition several European countries are not nation states. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveFanDan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) And I have already provided a definition of the nation state :- "A sovereign state of which most of the citizens or subjects are united also by factors which define a nation, such as language or common descent:" You are the worst of the ethno-Nats. Edited August 23, 2014 by MassiveFanDan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 You could say that H_B..... ...has made himself look like a complete pick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Was the UK a nation state before Irish Independence, or only after? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Saw a poll for the Scottish Parliament on Twitter. It's an average of several polling companies, not all of whom will be using the same methodology etc but it's mildly interesting SNP - 50 MSPs (-19) Labour - 47 MSPs (+10) Conservative - 16 MSPs (+1) Green - 10 MSPs (+8 ) Lib Dems - 6 MSPs (+1) Edited August 24, 2014 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Saw a poll for the Scottish Parliament on Twitter. It's an average of several polling companies, not all of whom will be using the same methodology etc but it's mildly interesting SNP - 50 MSPs (-19) Labour - 47 MSPs (+10) Conservative - 16 MSPs (+1) Green - 10 MSPs (+8 ) Lib Dems - 6 MSPs (+1) 10 Green MSP's?? Wowser. I'd take that - but how the Labour Party can gain is beyond me. What nitwits are voting for their drivel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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