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Helicopter crashes into Clutha pub, Glasgow


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If the crew had control they should have ditched in the water?

If they had any control over the landing they'd have tried to ditch it in the Clyde surely?

Of course, yeah. It's of course hearsay on my part to suggest it was a controlled landing or how much time the pilot had to react to the circumstances, especially given that Gordon Smart alluded that it was in a spin upon crashing.

Point being though is that if it was utterly out of control, it would have barreled straight through the bar...it wouldn't have come to rest on the roof before going through it as some (admittedly probably half scooped) pub goers have said, unless it was a sheer million to one shot.

Either way, it's a fucking horrific tragedy that seems to have been minimised by either luck, pilot skill or a combination of both.

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Jim Murphy can barely speak

The water reduces the force of the impact and reduces the chance of hurting someone on the ground. Landing on a roof seems unwise.

I was thinking of sinking like a stone while inside it

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Passed through Central station about 11:30. Needed a piss, so went into the bar. On the way out, saw the breaking news on the telly. People stunned watching at the bar. A bit surreal. Blue lights everywhere to the East when passing over the Clyde on the train. Horrible

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Given the (unconfirmed) news that the crew don't seem to have survived it doesn't seem likely (to my completely novice eye) it was there was much control on the landing so don't think they had the option to ditch it in the water and avoid other casualties.

Mind you, 50 yards the other side of the water is the Central Mosque. For conspiracy / political reasons probably best they didn't hit that.

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The main rotor would still be generating lift and the pilot would still have been able to use collective to get some degree of control regarding the speed of the fall but if the tail rotor was out then the crew would have had absolutely no directional control at all.

He wouldn't have been able to autorotate if the aircraft was spinning and it would have been on the dead zone for autorotation. It would be doubtful whether any usable lift was available if it was spinning.

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