The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Ludo*1]

You reckon Ross to Aberdeen is a bit of a jump as he's not proven anything yet (despite his impressive record at Alloa & St Mirren) but you can see Rangers going for McCann who has coached less than 2 dozen games?
I think I see a slight flaw in your logic, ole bean.

Where have I said Rangers will appoint McCann? There's not a fucking chance that will happen. It was the bookies odds I was commenting on.

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1 minute ago, Kneetrembler said:

 

We don't know how anyone else would have handled managing the club in that period. But we do know that no one tried to.

I am not seeing any consortium looking to buy him out now either. No "save Pittodrie" fans action group. Just anti kingsford.

I think he's done a decent enough job. He stood up in troubled times and is working hard on delivering Kingsford.

I get that you are strongly opposed to moving Stadium as are many Dons fans. However, it is a minority view.
 

 

Amazing what a good team on the pitch and a good marketing campaign can do. The "No Kingsford" group have helped the club no end as anyone anti-Kingsford is now seen as anti-AFC. The Loirston plans were better than what's being proposed for "Aurora" yet received nowhere near the level of support, could you explain that?

Its fair enough to say that nobody else has stepped up to run the club, at the same time we're moving the club 7 miles out of the city centre because apparently there are no other options. Doesn't mean that either are desirable situations.

[Kneetrembler]

Amazing what a good team on the pitch and a good marketing campaign can do. The "No Kingsford" group have helped the club no end as anyone anti-Kingsford is now seen as anti-AFC. The Loirston plans were better than what's being proposed for "Aurora" yet received nowhere near the level of support, could you explain that?
Its fair enough to say that nobody else has stepped up to run the club, at the same time we're moving the club 7 miles out of the city centre because apparently there are no other options. Doesn't mean that either are desirable situations.

Mate, that's the new stadium debate, which has a thread of it's own.
My post was that Milne has been a decent custodian of the club and I would trust him to pick a decent manager to replace DM when the time comes.
Ebbe had a stellar cv when he came in. He was just not suited to Scotland and a bit past It.
Pele had probably achieved more in football when he came in than Jack Ross has up to now. The drink had hold of him though and a bit of due diligence on that one might have helped. Lesson learned hopefully.
McGee was a disaster of an appointment. Milne made a right c**t of that one.
Craig Brown steadied the ship and laid the foundations for Mcinnes.

Far from perfect, but we could do a lot worse.

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3 minutes ago, Kneetrembler said:

 

Mate, that's the new stadium debate, which has a thread of it's own.
My post was that Milne has been a decent custodian of the club and I would trust him to pick a decent manager to replace DM when the time comes.
Ebbe had a stellar cv when he came in. He was just not suited to Scotland and a bit past It.
Pele had probably achieved more in football when he came in than Jack Ross has up to now. The drink had hold of him though and a bit of due diligence on that one might have helped. Lesson learned hopefully.
McGee was a disaster of an appointment. Milne made a right c**t of that one.
Craig Brown steadied the ship and laid the foundations for Mcinnes.

Far from perfect, but we could do a lot worse.

 

 

Yes but its a stadium which Milne has been trying to deliver for nearly two decades. We're not going to agree but Milne's tenure has been littered with poor decisions, the appointment of McInnes was an exception.

[EdTheDuck]

39 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

 

Where have I said Rangers will appoint McCann? There's not a fucking chance that will happen. It was the bookies odds I was commenting on.

See, when you said "if McCann leaves" and it was in light of the talk about his odds shortening for the "The Job" it seemed like you were suggesting if he went to Rangers...well, you can see how I made the assumption.

[Kneetrembler]

Yes but its a stadium which Milne has been trying to deliver for nearly two decades. We're not going to agree but Milne's tenure has been littered with poor decisions, the appointment of McInnes was an exception.

Changing the Pittodrie pie from a scotch pie to that real mince ones was a shite decision right enough.

Never mind it would be boring if we always agreed about everything.

[scoobles]

Mate, that's the new stadium debate, which has a thread of it's own.
My post was that Milne has been a decent custodian of the club and I would trust him to pick a decent manager to replace DM when the time comes.
Ebbe had a stellar cv when he came in. He was just not suited to Scotland and a bit past It.
Pele had probably achieved more in football when he came in than Jack Ross has up to now. The drink had hold of him though and a bit of due diligence on that one might have helped. Lesson learned hopefully.
McGee was a disaster of an appointment. Milne made a right c**t of that one.
Craig Brown steadied the ship and laid the foundations for Mcinnes.

Far from perfect, but we could do a lot worse.

Funny how you miss Calderwood, who drove fans away in masses, but is revered by some for playing a Europa group like they were home and away.
Milne got his stake in Aberdeen by writing off dicks erection.
Milne is not to blame for all of our problems but he is certainly culpable for more than other supports would have tolerated.

I miss Chris Anderson's vision

[Jmothecat2]

Funny how you miss Calderwood, who drove fans away in masses, but is revered by some for playing a Europa group like they were home and away.
Milne got his stake in Aberdeen by writing off dicks erection.
Milne is not to blame for all of our problems but he is certainly culpable for more than other supports would have tolerated.

I miss Chris Anderson's vision

Who reveres Calderwood?

[Jmothecat2]

#BringHimHome

[scoobles]

Who reveres Calderwood?

Did I quote you?
Thought I had you on ignore

[coprolite]

Yes but its a stadium which Milne has been trying to deliver for nearly two decades. We're not going to agree but Milne's tenure has been littered with poor decisions, the appointment of McInnes was an exception.

it's not like we had a choice between Milne and some business genius altruistic benefactor though.

[Jmothecat2]

Did I quote you?
Thought I had you on ignore

It was a genuine question, with the (relative) success of the McInnes trophy is there anyone missing the Calderwood era? One good season in Europe, and a collection of top six trophies to his credit, and certainly during the McGhee era plenty of people thought we made a mistake binning Calderwood, but does anyone now revere him, now we've seen what the club is capable of under decent management?

[scoobles]

It was a genuine question, with the (relative) success of the McInnes trophy is there anyone missing the Calderwood era? One good season in Europe, and a collection of top six trophies to his credit, and certainly during the McGhee era plenty of people thought we made a mistake binning Calderwood, but does anyone now revere him, now we've seen what the club is capable of under decent management?

Fair enough.
Loads still hark back to his halcyon days of Gary Dempsey, Ritchie fitever.
I hear it some games and fan pages hold him in a far better light than the reality.

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3 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said:

 

It was a genuine question, with the (relative) success of the McInnes trophy is there anyone missing the Calderwood era? One good season in Europe, and a collection of top six trophies to his credit, and certainly during the McGhee era plenty of people thought we made a mistake binning Calderwood, but does anyone now revere him, now we've seen what the club is capable of under decent management?

 

He knew how to beat the h*ns at Pittodrie at least.

[Ludo*1]

38 minutes ago, EdTheDuck said:

See, when you said "if McCann leaves" and it was in light of the talk about his odds shortening for the "The Job" it seemed like you were suggesting if he went to Rangers...well, you can see how I made the assumption.

When I say 'if McCann leaves', I'm more thinking about him potentially getting the sack more than anything else. In saying that, his last two results have firmly established him as a Dundee hero again. Funny how fickle football fans are.

[Jmothecat2]

He knew how to beat the h*ns at Pittodrie at least.

[BucksburnDandy]

Not entering administration doesn't make him a good chairman. Just because other clubs have been mismanaged more than our own doesn't mean Milne has been a success. In fact, our debt increased dramatically under Milne and was only cleared because of a kind act by the Donalds. We're posting good financial results now partly because of the lack of debt repayments which were around 500k per year I believe.
Milne has spent 17 years attempting to deliver a new stadium and training ground and has utterly failed. The deliberate neglect of our current ground is evident to see and our first team players get a minibus out to hired facilities every day. The best player we've produced in 20 years left aged 18 because of this. He also wants to move Aberdeen FC to a field several miles outside of Aberdeen.
He's out of touch with the support. He bottled it when we could've got rid of the 11-1 voting system. He would've bottled the newco situation had the fans not held back on season ticket purchases. He'd be quite happy to sit behind the Glasgow two until the end of time and take the apparent money associated with that, despite us bringing in record turnover year on year in the absence of a strong team at Ibrox.
He appointed McInnes but he also appointed Skovdahl, Paterson and McGhee. McInnes has been the one good appointment with the rest ranging from decent to diabolical. Across the SPL era (1998-2013), which coincides with Milne's reign as chairman pre-McInnes, we were outperformed by both Motherwell and Kilmarnock. McInnes transforming our fortunes on the pitch has made people think we're a well run club when in reality we're doing well despite Milne.

Never has a post been more correct about Milne and our board generally. The last few weeks has been handled badly by the club and the whole thing has a feel that the club are happy to settle with mediocrity.

Milne openly stated how much he wanted Rangers in the league and he's happy to stay behind them in perpetuity. The board are happy building a stadium on the edge of town when it's clear that the club should remain in the city. We've already made substantial compromises with the design to appease a group of nimbys who never would be appeased.

Meanwhile the enthusiasm from the fans has waned as summer signings have failed and the manager has had his head turned twice in under 6 months.

The club is at a crossroads with the stadium and the manager. Do I trust the board generally to get the decisions correct that will shape both the short and very long run of this club? No, I do not.

[Kneetrembler]

50 minutes ago, scoobles said:

Funny how you miss Calderwood, who drove fans away in masses, but is revered by some for playing a Europa group like they were home and away.
Milne got his stake in Aberdeen by writing off dicks erection.
Milne is not to blame for all of our problems but he is certainly culpable for more than other supports would have tolerated.

I miss Chris Anderson's vision

Calderwood had us mediocre. He was meh. I don't think I have ever heard anyone revere JC.

I miss Willie Miller's composed defending, but I don't think its relevant to how the club is doing now. 

[Kneetrembler]

3 minutes ago, BucksburnDandy said:

 

Never has a post been more correct about Milne and our board generally. The last few weeks has been handled badly by the club and the whole thing has a feel that the club are happy to settle with mediocrity.

Milne openly stated how much he wanted Rangers in the league and he's happy to stay behind them in perpetuity. The board are happy building a stadium on the edge of town when it's clear that the club should remain in the city. We've already made substantial compromises with the design to appease a group of nimbys who never would be appeased.

Meanwhile the enthusiasm from the fans has waned as summer signings have failed and the manager has had his head turned twice in under 6 months.

The club is at a crossroads with the stadium and the manager. Do I trust the board generally to get the decisions correct that will shape both the short and very long run of this club? No, I do not.

 

What is the alternative? Who better to come in? I'm not looking to argue, rather discuss what else can be done to make the team more successful.

[BucksburnDandy]

What is the alternative? Who better to come in? I'm not looking to argue, rather discuss what else can be done to make the team more successful.

There is no point arguing but we have gone flat in the boardroom, the burning drive that Yule brought in in the early years under McInnes has gone.

We certainly need fresh blood on the board. As you have pointed out earlier, there are few prominent local business people who want to step forward.

However, aside from talking about the alternative potential board members, the current board do not inspire trust that our long term future is in the best hands. If we were going to do an out of town ground, somewhere that has far better public transport links was a no brainer. We had the chance to go out to the new AECC where there is meant to be a train station and has far more bus routes. And missed it. I genuinely do not believe Kingsford will be a good decision for the club or the fan base.

Our past choice of managers leaves a fair whack to be desired, I think we can all agree a huge degree of trepidation of what the board will come up with if Del goes. I'd would be bricking it.