lubo_blaha Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I reckon I would back Sokler to get around 12 goals if he was our main striker over the course of a season. If we have the likes of McGrath, Clarkson, a new wide player and the other strikers contributing too then we’d probably get away with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 21 hours ago, tarapoa said: That is a bottom six squad IMO - even allowing for MacDonald, Polvara and Clarkson coming back in. Hopefully JT's "irons in the fire" get that sorted. Usually Burns has leaked them all by now. Arguably, but there's another seven or eight teams with bottom six squads at the moment. Not panicking until about half nine on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flammable sheep Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 13 hours ago, ScottishZizou said: It’s hard to imagine that the coaching staff got him so wrong last year The coaching staff got a lot wrong last year. See Clarkson and Shinnie's massive improvements. The culture at the club also left him isolated, and that is something Thelin seems to be addressing too. Not saying he's nailed on to be a star for us, but I'm not writing him off yet either. Also not panicking about lack of signings, Leven got a tune out of this group and we have replaced the outgoing players. I would expect a good winger to come in (maybe a loan, hence the wait?) and then using each subsequent window to address known problem areas. We'll need patience! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 15 hours ago, kingjoey said: Is your reliable source able to say why nothing has come out anywhere, apart from your post, about Leighton Clarkson’s shoulder injury? When will it be public knowledge? Confirmed out for up to 8 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 “Up to” 8 weeks. That could be a fortnight, or 1 week. Or a few days. This will be fine. Absolutely fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flammable sheep Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Well that's not great Chance for someone to step up, but we are now one midfield suspension/injury away from seeing Jensen at CDM... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: “Up to” 8 weeks. That could be a fortnight, or 1 week. Or a few days. This will be fine. Absolutely fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Not sure the physio covered himself in glory last week letting him play on. Clarkson was in clear discomfort and kept holding his shoulder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) I'm not a medical expert, but not just taking him off shortly after he sustained the injury did seem like an odd decision. He was clearly not right for the remainder of his time on the pitch, and with all due respect to Dumbarton, I'm not sure it was a game nor situation worthy of one of our best players being kept on after fairly extensive treatment. Edited August 2 by DrewDon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Painfully thin squad in midfield & woeful out wide (Morris, Besuijen, Duncan). An injury/suspension away from Richard Jensen in centre midfield Yet some think there’s no rush to bring in players. And, for folk who say “aye but there’s 4 weeks to go in the window”… I suggest they check who we’ve signed in the last week of August in the last three summers. It’s been mainly muck or panic buys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thenorthernlight said: Painfully thin squad in midfield & woeful out wide (Morris, Besuijen, Duncan). An injury/suspension away from Richard Jensen in centre midfield Yet some think there’s no rush to bring in players. And, for folk who say “aye but there’s 4 weeks to go in the window”… I suggest they check who we’ve signed in the last week of August in the last three summers. It’s been mainly muck or panic buys If you bring in just anyone tomorrow, it’s a panic buy. I trust that there are players in the pipeline. Some fans already not buying into the “let’s be patient out there” ethos. Edited August 2 by kingjoey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Thenorthernlight said: Painfully thin squad in midfield & woeful out wide (Morris, Besuijen, Duncan). An injury/suspension away from Richard Jensen in centre midfield Yet some think there’s no rush to bring in players. And, for folk who say “aye but there’s 4 weeks to go in the window”… I suggest they check who we’ve signed in the last week of August in the last three summers. It’s been mainly muck or panic buys So do we need to rush in the next 3 weeks to avoid signing anyone in the last week? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, kingjoey said: If you bring in just anyone tomorrow, it’s a panic buy. I trust that there are players in the pipeline. Some fans already not buying into the “let’s be patient out there” ethos. Oh I’ll be patient with the manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorie Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I wonder if we are seeing the effects of having to payoff 3 managers in quick succession has taken a dint in our transfer kitty this season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Thelin could do worse than start briefing to the media that Dave is broke. If there was ever an owner to start throwing money about because people think he can't, Dave is that man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) On 01/08/2024 at 22:25, ScottishZizou said: Are we having a debate as to whether the significant outlay on Pape Gueye was or wasn’t a wise use of money? For the money we spent we should be getting very good Scottish premiership player. It’s hard to imagine that the coaching staff got him so wrong last year Im asking a simple question. He started 1 game last season, (in a blizzard!) after having not played in months with the genius tactic of hoofing the ball in his general direction. Yet some people have decided he has to be shite based on very little evidence. I see you have also decided Sokler definitely isnt up to it? While the jury is out hes certainly scored more than the 1 in 26 youve claimed? Someone like Ryan Duncan who has played 40 first team games and delivered nothing is more the problem. Edited August 3 by afc_blockhead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishZizou Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Yes. Ryan Duncan is a problem by not being very good at football. He also didn't cost us as much money as Sokler and Gueye who as well as not being very good at football have proven to be money pits. I hope I'm wrong but all available evidence points to Sokler and Gueye being not very good. You can tell by watching Sokler that he isn't up to it. He looks at best like a bottom half player which doesn't justify what we have spent on him. Gueye was allegedly north of £500k and he hasn't been able to get anywhere near the pitch. Are you happy that we have signed these players? That seems a mental take. Thelin might end up being a good manager but he's stuck with very expensive players who I would be amazed if he would have wanted to sign at that cost. Edited August 3 by ScottishZizou 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, ScottishZizou said: Yes. Ryan Duncan is a problem by not being very good at football. He also didn't cost us as much money as Sokler and Gueye who as well as not being very good at football have proven to be money pits. I hope I'm wrong but all available evidence points to Sokler and Gueye being not very good. You can tell by watching Sokler that he isn't up to it. He looks at best like a bottom half player which doesn't justify what we have spent on him. Gueye was allegedly north of £500k and he hasn't been able to get anywhere near the pitch. Are you happy that we have signed these players? That seems a mental take. Thelin might end up being a good manager but he's stuck with very expensive players who I would be amazed if he would have wanted to sign at that cost. Sokler best performances came against Rangers, Celtic and Frankfurt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishZizou Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, DukDukGoose said: Sokler best performances came against Rangers, Celtic and Frankfurt. Yes and this skill set is pretty different to that which is needed in most of our matches. I don’t doubt he can put himself about but I don’t think his quality with the ball is as good as is required or can justify spending a fee and multi year contract for 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 30 minutes ago, ScottishZizou said: Yes and this skill set is pretty different to that which is needed in most of our matches. I don’t doubt he can put himself about but I don’t think his quality with the ball is as good as is required or can justify spending a fee and multi year contract for Yet he's scored 4 in 4 so far this season as the main striker. Far too early to write him off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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