O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Tbh I'd disagree. Drawing with the Faeroes, luckily, losing to a godawful Lithuania and scraping a win in the final qualifier after playing terribly. Even the draw with Germany was put in context by them failing to win a game at the finals despite playing Latvia and drawing with Lithuania and Iceland in the qualifiers. The whole Vogts reign had one genuinely impressive result. We were abysmal in 95% of his games thoughThere was something of the surreal about that Germany draw. The day before, wee Berti hosted a press conference at the Rock Bowling Club down the road from me with committee member Wee Sloany providing tea and sandwiches to the international press corps. A bizarre occasion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: History will show that in the 23-year interregnum between WC 1998/Craig Brown and Euro 2021/Steve Clarke it was Berti 'Call me McVogts' Vogts who got us to a playoff and won 1st leg. Thank you Berti from all of us. History will also show us that Craig Brown got us to a playoff, where we also won one of the games. As a bonus, we didn't pathetically capitulate in the other leg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Gordopolis said: Marsh has only ever been clear first choice once in his 16 years with Scotland (twice if you include now), during Strachan's time. Never heard a peep of discontent or dummy spitting from him. Top boi. Darren Fletcher was saying similar last night, Marsh turned up for every squad despite being a distant third choice goalie on many occasions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I'm going to continue to bear a grudge against Berti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 hours ago, DA Baracus said: History will also show us that Craig Brown got us to a playoff, where we also won one of the games. As a bonus, we didn't pathetically capitulate in the other leg. And it will also show that Alex McLeish got us to the equivalent of a play-off in a campaign where there were no play-offs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 30/06/2014 at 12:14, H_B said: Vogts was a horrendous Scotland manager. No rewriting of history after the fact should disguise the awfulness of his reign. This, anyone suggesting otherwise didn't sit through countless matches where we struggled to string two passes together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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