topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I was being facetious. Yours is one of the few serious contributions to the thread, but I doubt if it will steer it onto a ptoper discussion footing. I was also being facetious all Hibs fans are c***s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 but, why am I wrong? shouldn't be hard, if it's so obvious. Exactly, hence not worth discussing Go have a think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 A: "You're Wrong" B" "Why's That Then" A: "Not Telling" great, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing (2) Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 A 2 min think was not enough imo............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 ooft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What your entire analysis is skipping over though is that I imagine the BME community in NI will be significantly smaller as a percentage of population. This is true the "Ethnic" population of Scotland is 4% while in NI it's 1.8% (2011 Census) Crunching those numbers 20 Race Hate Crimes Reported per 1000 ethnic minority population in Scotland 22 Race Hate Crimes Recorded per 1000 ethnic minority population in NI 31 Race Hate Incidents Recorded per 1000 ethnic minority population in NI Depending on which figure is most comparable to the Scottish one this looks like a small difference or about 10 years of Scottish Progress. So we can get Having looked at this report http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2013/12/4535/3 where higher figures are reported for Scottish Incidents than Crimes I think it's probably the former I didn't lead with those numbers partly because Poles and Romanians aren't included in the numbers and race hate crimes against white people make up a particularly large component of the NI cases so I'd have to dig out further details to be sure. I think that the proportion remains the same after adding people born in EU enlargement, states but I've not verified it. But mainly because I was addressing the issue of how likely people are to commit crime as opposed to how likely they are to suffer it. This was in part because the thread was centring on how backwards and massively racist Northern Irish people supposedly are as opposed to how bad the lot of ethnic minorities is in Northern Ireland But also because focusing first on the rate per potential victim as opposed to potential perpetrator seems to be wrong to me. It implies that it's the ethnic minority is the prime cause of the crimes committed against it. Nonetheless there is a truth to it at least in extremis. If there weren't any Poles in Scotland then there wouldn't be any anti-Polish racism. So if you wish to crunch the numbers further feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 actually I thought about putting Kilwinning instead no hard feelings, Monster. None taken whatsoever, I thought your post was excellent in addressing much of the root causes of the racism growing from the bigoted organisations. I think a general tribalism contributes as well in the human sense of people being afraid to be either left out or go against the grain. Plus poverty, and with ignorance a tendency to look outwards for blame for disappointing social conditions. No great insight, but it's about the best I can do. I should add that i bloody love Belfast and it's folk, I've been often and they're naturally friendly. Great party city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 They're just idiots. like certain posters on here with their uneducated stereotypes. The Ulstermen who fought against fascism will be turning in their graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Would bring a tear to a glass eye. Edit: It's non sectarian to the uneducated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackIsleBud Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Would bring a tear to a glass eye. Edit: It's non sectarian to the uneducated. Erm.......no. Not sectarian. Just feckin shite. Whinging about 'losing' 3 counties. Boo-hoo. Do us all a favour and f**k off with your injustices. I mean, its not as if the blokes in the South of that island lost thousands of mates fighting in the Somme is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Would bring a tear to a glass eye. Edit: It's non sectarian to the uneducated. What the f**k is that pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 What the f**k is that pish? Some history for you, did you listen to the words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Some history for you, did you listen to the words? The words were as equally pish as the horrific music and there wasn't any real historical info there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 What the f**k is that pish? Says a Nat, brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 The words were as equally pish as the horrific music and there wasn't any real historical info there either. There clearly is, you're too thick to take it in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Says a Nat, brilliant. Do point to where I was nationalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCharisma Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Do point to where I was nationalist. Apologies, that was meant for the post above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Looks like LTL is posting under a slightly less discredited alias now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Would bring a tear to a glass eye. Edit: It's non sectarian to the uneducated. Sash bash thread yasss! WATP GSTQ No Surrender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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