ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 By f**k this is desperation taken to a new level. We are not desperate, we will win this, if I was desperate I'd be on Twatter or some other medium hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Quite the opposite. I feel the desperation is firmly with the current government over this referendum. That has been very clear to all. I simply have always found this polling situation and the 50 percent threshold rather interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The Yes types that actually expect to win are hilarious because there is very little evidence. Put your money where your mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 By f**k this is desperation taken to a new level. No, I think you'll find that is this: http://www.bbc.co.uk...adcast-26082014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 also the prequestioning was widely discredited and Yes only lead by 1% Aren't you surprised that an outlier hasn't presented itself recently, I am, if you were constantly asking a different 1000 people you'd expect some strange results now and then, that hasn't happened here, the outliers have usually been accompanied by a new methodology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 By f**k this is desperation taken to a new level. Are you not worried by your employers suddenly slashing your hours this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Aren't you surprised that an outlier hasn't presented itself recently, I am, if you were constantly asking a different 1000 people you'd expect some strange results now and then, that hasn't happened here, the outliers have usually been accompanied by a new methodology. The outliers are when Yes is under 40 or higher than 45 (DKs excluded) Also it's not a different 1000 every time. You get a measure of swings etc if you repeat poll samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The outliers are when Yes is under 40 or higher than 45 (DKs excluded) No,that would only be correct if the 3% margin of error was correct, it's not, that's the best case scenario, as we have nothing to judge this against it would be silly to assume that all these polls are near the best case scenario. Also it's not a different 1000 every time. You get a measure of swings etc if you repeat poll samples That's the reply I was hoping for. These polls are only representative of a small subset of society, political busybodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Exactly Ayrmad So agenda to what end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Exactly Ayrmad So agenda to what end? There doesn't even need to be an agenda, the pollsters won't have any idea what methodologies are right or wrong 'til they dissect the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 It's awfully difficult to mess up the sampling on an exit poll. If the polls really are biased towards No then that'll be revealed during exit polling. If exit polling doesn't strongly correlate with the actual outcome I'd be very surprised. I don't really think outright vote fraud is going to take place. Every single other dirty trick will be employed until the minute the polls shut though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The Yes campaign commissioned a poll a couple of weeks ago. It had no infront. Are they lying to you too? The reason no has been ahead in every single poll is simple. No is ahead in reality. Tick By f**k this is desperation taken to a new level. Tock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't blame people who say, "Take your own pen", rather than using the provided pencils. I was gobsmacked that it was pencils and not pens at my polling place for the EU elections. If the count is as tightly secure as is being made out on here then it won't matter. But it's just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Jesus Christ. It's pencils. WTF!!!! Are they serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Jesus Christ. It's pencils. WTF!!!! Are they serious It's ridiculous. You don't have to use them, but their reasoning for having pencils instead of pens is pretty ropey to say the least. In this day and age it's bizarre. Overall, you have to trust it will all be above board, otherwise why bother ever voting? A message to anyone voting (regardless of persuasion): Do not give them ANY excuse to reject your vote. Mark the cross within the box (without any of it going outside the boundaries), check with the people at the desk that it's folded to their liking, follow all the instructions on your postal voting stuff to the letter etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Jesus Christ. It's pencils. WTF!!!! Are they serious With a rubber on the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarcola Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 I just read the ballot must be crossed in pencil. At ballet in pen is auto spoiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I was talking to an English friend who was up in Edinburgh for the Fringe last week. He said the question of the referendum came up at a few shows and he noticed something interesting. When audiences were asked to shout out their preferences, the Yes voters noticeably outnumbered those shouting No. However, if a show of hands was asked for, the No voters outnumbered the Yes by about four to one. Then I read here of Yes voters saying they rarely encounter a No voter and I wonder if there's a reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmarkj Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 After the constant dirty tricks of the government MPs in their Better Together campaign, together with the obvious media bias, together with the strange and less than representative polling results, how can Scots be sure the actual vote will be correctly counted and 100 percent transparent. ? The polls are accurate. Just because you don't want to believe you make excuses. The result will most likely be NO, get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The Yes types that actually expect to win are hilarious because there is very little evidence. Put your money where your mouth is. Rather than put it on a bet I have done over the last few years, through crowdfunding, membership of Jimmy Reid Foundation, subscribing to NewsnetScotland, attending fundraising events, doubling my contribution to the SNP membership, etc.. Have you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you just a sad internet troll? (that's a rhetorical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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