Tattie36 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, clashcityrocker said: I think we are all broadly in agreement with this - between signing a new player and bringing in loans I think this will happen. Also think a couple of players will get put out on loan. Just a matter of waiting to hear on whose coming in - I'd rather wait a few weeks to avoid any rush decisions. Overall I am pleased with the squad, with the exceptions which have been discussed. Understand that we may have no choice in the matter but the league starts in 8 days. We can’t really be happy to “wait a few weeks” can we? Going into the league campaign in our current situation isn’t a great prospect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said: So people think we generally have a good squad, but we need more players? Is there going to come a point where people start demanding the management get the best out of the players we have, rather than operating a revolving door of swapping half a squad every window? People want Scott Allan out, they have decided he is apparently the problem. Scott Allan is not a bad player. I would argue that we dont have any "bad" players in the squad. It is up to the management to get the best out of the good players we have, and on that front, they have been falling woefully short for the last year. Maybe look at that, rather than demand yet more squad upheaval? You are completely missing the point. We need more players because the squad is unbalanced - nobody said Scott Allan was a problem or a bad player. How hard is it to understand? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Moorie said: I don’t understand why a team like Arbroath need to have a third kit. Get it’s for a good cause but surely sticking the charity buckets out side the ground would surely get more money in than the the shirts will? One of my absolute pet hates in football is teams wearing their away kits at home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtiekev Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Jacobs, Allan and Norey all play in the same position and its 3 players you could move on and it wouldn't make us any weaker, we still have plenty cover there and if anyone was being really honest with them self not one of them would make there starting 11 as things stand Slater, Balde, Mckenna, Gold all start there before them and then you have the option of using Dow and even Scott Stewart there, I just feel they 3 wages and places could of been used elsewhere and balanced the squad out better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, lichtiekev said: Jacobs, Allan and Norey all play in the same position and its 3 players you could move on and it wouldn't make us any weaker, we still have plenty cover there and if anyone was being really honest with them self not one of them would make there starting 11 as things stand Slater, Balde, Mckenna, Gold all start there before them and then you have the option of using Dow and even Scott Stewart there, I just feel they 3 wages and places could of been used elsewhere and balanced the squad out better And most of us are in agreement that we still need someone who is a proper defensive midfielder in there too. Said to @Lichtie78that Jack Milne from Aberdeen on paper looks ideal - 6 foot 4 - highly rated, started in midfield and been moved back into central defence recently. At loan to Kelty from January to seasons end and appeared in Aberdeen first team last season and in this pre season too. Someone like the above and a left back (Ngwenya for 6 months loan even) and we’d be looking pretty sound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseMarooniho Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, lichtie23 said: One of my absolute pet hates in football is teams wearing their away kits at home. Or wearing a change kit where no clash of colours exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, JoseMarooniho said: Or wearing a change kit where no clash of colours exists. Aye that’s annoying as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerafc Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Allan best position where Mckenna plays I would say. Not quite sure we need a big defensive midfielder. That position is more about the engine to get about and break things up rather than height. Except from Henderson who occasionally played there and Bisindou last season we have never really had height in that position under Campbell. I think Blade, Gold and even Stewart could be fulfil that role. For me the lineup I would play when everyone is fit is Gaston Steele, Little, TOB, Hammy (Loan LB) Stowe Balde Slater Dow McKenna Bird Allan as replacement for Slater/McKenna Stewart for Stowe/Dow Gold for Balde/Slater Mcintosh for Bird Norey for Balde/Slater Turan and Jacobs for emergency cover. I actually think other than needing defensive cover the wide area is where we are lacking good options. Edited July 27, 2023 by Hammerafc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Hammerafc said: Allan best position where Mckenna plays I would say. Not quite sure we need a big defensive midfielder. That position is more about the engine to get about and break things up rather than height. Except from Henderson who occasionally played there and Bisindou last season we have never really had height in that position under Campbell. I think Blade, Gold and even Stewart could be fulfil that role. For me the lineup I would play when everyone is fit is Gaston Steele, Little, TOB, Hammy (Loan LB) Stowe Balde Slater Dow McKenna Bird Allan as replacement for Slater/McKenna Stewart for Stowe/Dow Gold for Balde/Slater Mcintosh for Bird Norey for Balde/Slater Turan and Jacobs for emergency cover. I actually think other than needing defensive cover the wide area is where we are lacking good options. Kehn what you mean but Balde just chokes to get forward someone would have to have a word with him about sitting. Gold is adequate too but like McKenna they 2 never stop. Against Dundee Goldie was away chasing everything down and leaving Allan deep all by himself a lot. Balde and Slater definitely the way to go as it stands. I noticed Slater really got stuck in on Tuesday which was good For as average as big Bitsindou was I think he did help out Tam and Ricky a lot by just staying put and winning balls in the air infront of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerafc Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Kehn what you mean but Balde just chokes to get forward someone would have to have a word with him about sitting. Gold is adequate too but like McKenna they 2 never stop. Against Dundee Goldie was away chasing everything down and leaving Allan deep all by himself a lot. Balde and Slater definitely the way to go as it stands. I noticed Slater really got stuck in on Tuesday which was good For as average as big Bitsindou was I think he did help out Tam and Ricky a lot by just staying put and winning balls in the air infront of them. Yeah can't disagree. There would have to be some discipline involved and it's always good to have someone that can win the ariel battle in there but not sure I could handle another central midfield signing. Be handy to get a Henderson/Hamilton like player that can play across the back and in that role. Edited July 27, 2023 by Hammerafc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFC360PUNK1320 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I actually think we have a very decent squad of players but have my doubts on one or two of them but still think we need to add one or two in specific areas. I cannot believe with 8 days to go to the start of the season we have not signed a proper left back, it was always going to be be well into the season before Hammy would be back "match" fit plus remember he has not had a proper pre-season so that position to me would have been TOP of my list as well as a striker who can score goals. So with signing the impressive Steele to me we NEEDED a proper left back PLUS another defensive player who could cover various positions across the back line, i liked Heatherington and believe he could have been a good squad player who could cover various positions and realise at his age he wanted 1st team football hence he chose Alloa over us. He could have also played in the big dirty bass# holding midfielder that we need to protect TOB/Ricky so imo we still need someone in there. I still maintain we should have broke the bank to get in a quality goal scoring striker like Carrick from Stirling Albion, i like the look of Bird and always liked McIntosh but still think we required the "proven" goal scorer signing, OK i would have had Simon Murray as my first choice (hopefully next season). So in short i would say 85-90% of our squad are good players who can play in the Championship but we still need at least another 3 quality players (left back, big holding midfielder, proven striker) and also another player for cover across the defence. I like the look of Steele, Stowe, Slater, Bird, McIntosh and i thought getting Balde and Dow last season improved us so i am not going to say all our signings have been bad but on one or two of them "the jury is still out" on them in my opinion. There is no doubt for whatever reason roughly about the first Queens Park game at home last season (i think it was a 4-1 defeat) when for some nutty reason Big Luke was played in central midfield before Craigen then within a couple of weeks Craigen/JT/Big Luke/Low were all away for various reason and we have struggled to replace them and get the "full" team harmony again on/off the pitch. The League has not started yet but apart from winning 2 friendlies (good results as well) away to Stirling Albion and Falkirk we have drew with a Highland League club away from home, and been beaten at home by a lower league club in the other friendly who happened to be our fiercest rivals then in the competitive games drew at home to a Lowland League club smashed away to a SPL club and well beat away from home to a club in the lowest SPFL league which is not good reading. Also I really hope Rab Douglas is still part of the Management Team as he seems to have not been on the sidelines since the Brechin City game and is it any coincidence we have leaked goals and Gaston/TOB/Ricky have not been at their best? Anyway Keep The Faith but we as a club need to get this fixed very soon. Smokies & Wine 36-0. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayshead2 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, AFC360PUNK1320 said: I actually think we have a very decent squad of players but have my doubts on one or two of them but still think we need to add one or two in specific areas. I cannot believe with 8 days to go to the start of the season we have not signed a proper left back, it was always going to be be well into the season before Hammy would be back "match" fit plus remember he has not had a proper pre-season so that position to me would have been TOP of my list as well as a striker who can score goals. So with signing the impressive Steele to me we NEEDED a proper left back PLUS another defensive player who could cover various positions across the back line, i liked Heatherington and believe he could have been a good squad player who could cover various positions and realise at his age he wanted 1st team football hence he chose Alloa over us. He could have also played in the big dirty bass# holding midfielder that we need to protect TOB/Ricky so imo we still need someone in there. I still maintain we should have broke the bank to get in a quality goal scoring striker like Carrick from Stirling Albion, i like the look of Bird and always liked McIntosh but still think we required the "proven" goal scorer signing, OK i would have had Simon Murray as my first choice (hopefully next season). So in short i would say 85-90% of our squad are good players who can play in the Championship but we still need at least another 3 quality players (left back, big holding midfielder, proven striker) and also another player for cover across the defence. I like the look of Steele, Stowe, Slater, Bird, McIntosh and i thought getting Balde and Dow last season improved us so i am not going to say all our signings have been bad but on one or two of them "the jury is still out" on them in my opinion. There is no doubt for whatever reason roughly about the first Queens Park game at home last season (i think it was a 4-1 defeat) when for some nutty reason Big Luke was played in central midfield before Craigen then within a couple of weeks Craigen/JT/Big Luke/Low were all away for various reason and we have struggled to replace them and get the "full" team harmony again on/off the pitch. The League has not started yet but apart from winning 2 friendlies (good results as well) away to Stirling Albion and Falkirk we have drew with a Highland League club away from home, and been beaten at home by a lower league club in the other friendly who happened to be our fiercest rivals then in the competitive games drew at home to a Lowland League club smashed away to a SPL club and well beat away from home to a club in the lowest SPFL league which is not good reading. Also I really hope Rab Douglas is still part of the Management Team as he seems to have not been on the sidelines since the Brechin City game and is it any coincidence we have leaked goals and Gaston/TOB/Ricky have not been at their best? Anyway Keep The Faith but we as a club need to get this fixed very soon. Smokies & Wine 36-0. This long winded nonsense (pish)is the final straw for me. Do you honestly think we haven't been trying to sign goalscorers. They don't want to come for various reasons. Goodbye Arbroath pie n bovril forum.. I can't take anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Is Bird not on 3 goals in 5 games, 2 of them being great finishes I’d have him over any other striker that’s part time the now think it could be a real coup for us - McIntosh perfectly good back up for him and McKenna too Edited July 27, 2023 by 1320Lichtie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Bird looks a cracking player, and McIntosh is decent at this level. We can all see how poor Turan is unfortunately. How anyone can say we didn’t try and sign goalscorer’s is bizarre. As bizarre as something thinking we could sign Simon Murray 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyJoe Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 We won’t be signing another striker this window 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Montrose support ripping us for wearing that blue kit on Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SmokeyJoe said: We won’t be signing another striker this window What about a left winger.. Also I’m sure a left back is in the works but maybe won’t be in time for Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHM Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I wonder if Anton Dowds will be pushed out the door at Partick with them signing another striker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyJoe Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: What about a left winger.. Also I’m sure a left back is in the works but maybe won’t be in time for Saturday I’ll take a left winger and a left back please 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseMarooniho Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 hours ago, lichtie23 said: Montrose support ripping us for wearing that blue kit on Saturday Like that matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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