Dee Dee Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Anyone remember Netan Sansara? Up there wi Jacquinto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Eh'd keep his, crash helmet, scalp. To use as a cone for drills and skills. £10 an hour. That's it. Ehv always liked you. Ehv a half q left, you wantin in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Dee Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Tempting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 'Snah' bad fella.. Ehl pm ya a photay .. Ehm mare pickled that a dondos dubble, ahcunt aff ta sleep tho. Sundays looking like eh might need jeezis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdAccount Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 'Snah' bad fella.. Ehl pm ya a photay .. Ehm mare pickled that a dondos dubble, ahcunt aff ta sleep tho. Sundays looking like eh might need jeezis Sounds like a good night tbh I'll be praying for you tomorrow morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Dee Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) 'Snah' bad fella.. Ehl pm ya a photay .. Ehm mare pickled that a dondos dubble, ahcunt aff ta sleep tho. Sundays looking like eh might need jeezisShould o come to the bingo. Tidy night.ETA no as bad as it sounds, tbh Edited November 1, 2015 by Dee Dee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Gandosaur Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Matt Lockwood is still the best LB we've had since the Bonetti era. The Matt Lockwood we signed originally (Before his legs went) would breeze into our current side. I would agree but I think having Craig Forsyth in front of him helped him a lot. When Fozzy was replaced with Conroy, Lockwood got exposed a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Read a few posts saying it was never a pen for caley? Lot of boys ripping into Holt maybe needing to temper it a bit? He's not brilliant, but he's still better than Irvine and has contributed a couple of vital goals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Read a few posts saying it was never a pen for caley? Lot of boys ripping into Holt maybe needing to temper it a bit? He's not brilliant, but he's still better than Irvine and has contributed a couple of vital goals. John Hughes has came out and said it was 'never a penalty in a million years'. Link. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdAccount Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 John Hughes has came out and said it was 'never a penalty in a million years'. Link.That's it certain then.A definite penalty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieDee Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Read a few posts saying it was never a pen for caley? Lot of boys ripping into Holt maybe needing to temper it a bit? He's not brilliant, but he's still better than Irvine and has contributed a couple of vital goals. Agreed. One of his strengths is to get up the wing but you can only do this if there is a holding midfielder (like Low or Gowser) that can cover. Thomson, Ross and Harkins just don't do this. Think his confidence has been shaken a bit with our line-ups but hopefully will sort this for future games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DensParkNumber1 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'll retract my statement , nothing Holt can do when the boy dives in front of him and gets a pen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 That's it certain then. A definite penalty. f**k off matty ya wee dick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdAccount Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 f**k off matty ya wee dick. Not Matty unfortunately but I'm flattered by the comparison. Thx bbz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottdeeuk Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I remember McGinn getting the same comments last season that Holt is getting now. He's a young player adapting to a new team and a new league, there is no question that there is a difference in standard between the Championship and the Premiership. Give the guy the time and the support and he will come good, like McGinn now is. I think now Gowser is back we will see the defence less exposed than it has been at times this season. We have missed a holding midfielder of his quality. This will help all of our defence, not just Holt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I remember McGinn getting the same comments last season that Holt is getting now. He's a young player adapting to a new team and a new league, there is no question that there is a difference in standard between the Championship and the Premiership. Give the guy the time and the support and he will come good, like McGinn now is. I think now Gowser is back we will see the defence less exposed than it has been at times this season. We have missed a holding midfielder of his quality. This will help all of our defence, not just Holt. I've never really slated the laddie although I was pretty pissed off on Saturday with him diving in for that penalty. People have to remember we've had Gary Irvine and Wullie Dyer occupying that position the last few seasons so it's definitely a step up from them. Anyway I was quite impressed with Gadzalhov on Saturday, first time I've seen him since last years final derby where he was abysmal that day. It looks like he's adjusting to the Scottish game plus it looks like he's understanding/speaking English better. Hopefully more of the same to come from him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I've never really slated the laddie although I was pretty pissed off on Saturday with him diving in for that penalty. He didn't dive in, nor did he touch the player going down. If people want to criticise him then there are a few incidents we could use but last Saturday isn't one of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEEJANGO Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hartley needs to work on playing against 10 men. Get players out wide, keep it on the deck and go at them. Not sit back and let teams come at you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Lot of pish floating around (mostly Mad and Facebook to be fair but that's were it always starts) about Hartley being under pressure having won 4 in 24 games or something like that. I had an Arab e-mailing me saying he would be sacked soon and quoting some of these roasters saying the knives were out, relegation form etc. After I lol'ed heartily at his relegation form jibe (amazing what diference a 2nd league win makes!) I too kthe time out to explain some mitigations IMO for Hartleys track record over the last 24 selected games. Might provide some context to some on here who are getting restless or other fans looking in (Hiya DAB's, hiya pals) on why that run looks so poor. Our record is poor over the past 20 odd games but I would defend Hartley slightly on that one! He is 4 wins in 14 this season (which isn’t stellar – although losing 5 in 14 isn’t too bad either) ) and to go any further back is IMO a bit unfair. We got to the top 6 last season and simply weren’t as good as any of the other top 6 teams with no prospect of improving on 6th place. Thats 5 games straight away where he was playing the top teams in the country with nothing to play for and got 1 draw. Prior to those 5 games, our run into the split was extremely tricky when you look at it – 5 games pre split were Aberdeen (H) , Caley (A), Utd (H), St J (A), Celtic (A) – effectively we played the top 5 teams 10 games in a row at the end of last season, getting 1 win and 3 draws, 6 losses. If you go back the previous 9 games before that against the bottom 6 teams (plus 1 against Aberdeen) he won 5 out of 9 with only 1 loss which is very good form for a newly promoted side. Obviously these games don't get included by the "Hartley Out" brigade as it would make his run look not bad… I.E it’s currently 5 wins in 25 games if you want to have a go at Hartley, or it could be 10 wins in 30 if you are a bit more positive. Still not sowstopping form when you look at it that way, but for a wee bit of context, we only won 11 league games last season and still finished top 6. Almost halfway there already this season in terms of games won. (I do expect the top 6 to require more this season tbh) My defence of him is that he overachieved really well with a poor team last year, unfortunately that set him up for a 10 game run against the best teams with a squad nowhere near the level of the other teams which has given ammo to anyone who wants to throw it. If we had finished in the bottom 6 it’s likely we would have won 3 or 4 of those games and his win streak looks a lot better – victim of his own success I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wa5373 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Lot of pish floating around (mostly Mad and Facebook to be fair but that's were it always starts) about Hartley being under pressure having won 4 in 24 games or something like that. I had an Arab e-mailing me saying he would be sacked soon and quoting some of these roasters saying the knives were out, relegation form etc. After I lol'ed heartily at his relegation form jibe (amazing what diference a 2nd league win makes!) I too kthe time out to explain some mitigations IMO for Hartleys track record over the last 24 selected games. Might provide some context to some on here who are getting restless or other fans looking in (Hiya DAB's, hiya pals) on why that run looks so poor. Our record is poor over the past 20 odd games but I would defend Hartley slightly on that one! He is 4 wins in 14 this season (which isn’t stellar – although losing 5 in 14 isn’t too bad either) ) and to go any further back is IMO a bit unfair. We got to the top 6 last season and simply weren’t as good as any of the other top 6 teams with no prospect of improving on 6th place. Thats 5 games straight away where he was playing the top teams in the country with nothing to play for and got 1 draw. Prior to those 5 games, our run into the split was extremely tricky when you look at it – 5 games pre split were Aberdeen (H) , Caley (A), Utd (H), St J (A), Celtic (A) – effectively we played the top 5 teams 10 games in a row at the end of last season, getting 1 win and 3 draws, 6 losses. If you go back the previous 9 games before that against the bottom 6 teams (plus 1 against Aberdeen) he won 5 out of 9 with only 1 loss which is very good form for a newly promoted side. Obviously these games don't get included by the "Hartley Out" brigade as it would make his run look not bad… I.E it’s currently 5 wins in 25 games if you want to have a go at Hartley, or it could be 10 wins in 30 if you are a bit more positive. Still not sowstopping form when you look at it that way, but for a wee bit of context, we only won 11 league games last season and still finished top 6. Almost halfway there already this season in terms of games won. (I do expect the top 6 to require more this season tbh) My defence of him is that he overachieved really well with a poor team last year, unfortunately that set him up for a 10 game run against the best teams with a squad nowhere near the level of the other teams which has given ammo to anyone who wants to throw it. If we had finished in the bottom 6 it’s likely we would have won 3 or 4 of those games and his win streak looks a lot better – victim of his own success I think. too be fair on Hartley most past Dundee managers only win 2-24 use are a bottom 6 team unless use are in the old 1st div which use do ok 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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