AberdeenBud Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'm just not as convinced that Labour are going to win the GE. I can see Ed having a Kinnock like campaign and voters deserting in droves when he fails the No 10 test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I can see it being a hung parliament quite easily, and a minority government given the Lib Dems will have been obliterated also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'm just not as convinced that Labour are going to win the GE. I can see Ed having a Kinnock like campaign and voters deserting in droves when he fails the No 10 test.I'd take it further. I can't see Labour having a prayer of winning. The economy is getting stronger with each week that passes and Cameron will flay him with that and ridicule the Labour statements about cutting too far too fast. We have the only decent growth in Europe and to the majority of the electorate the economic situation wins most of the time. He'll rightly point at Labour and say look at what you could have won.I can also see the Labour vote in Scotland collapsing as pro-independence voters will realise Labours beliefs are at odds with theirs which really means curtains for his chances. Labour are fucked at the next general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I can see it being a hung parliament quite easily, and a minority government given the Lib Dems will have been obliterated also. Could be quite amusing if the snp hold the balance of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 A hung parliament and a Lib Dem collapse are almost mutually exclusive. Given that outside of the Northern Irish seats there are about 10 MPs that don't belong to one of the big 3, if the Lib Dems are reduced to a handful of seats then it's almost impossible that one or the other isn't over 326, given that you could have well over 600 Lab and Con combined MPs. Unless Labour and the Tories are almost completely neck and neck one of them will get a majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It doesn't make a damn bit of difference who wins next year, because all three parties are fundamentally the same. There is a cross party consensus on nearly every issue which dumb's down politics in this country. Turning elections into popularity contests. Where the one that spends the most wins. Personally If I had to choose between Labour and Tories next year. I would pick the Tories. Purely based on the faint promise of getting an in/out referendum on Europe. However, I expect another relentless state/corporate media campaign to scare us into staying in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Labour will win the election. The 2010 election was always destined to result in a one term government of some sort. A big part of the reason why Labour didn't even bother trying to form a coalition IMO. Labour did try to form a coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Labour did try to form a coalition. Mmm.. not very hard they didn't. They had seen the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Labour did try to form a coalition. Gordon Brown tried to organise talks of a rainbow coalition involving the Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid, the Greens, the SDLP and the Alliance party, but many Labour backbenchers said they would refuse to support it and would rather just accept going in to opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm going with the OP on this one. Cameron playing the nationalist card in England (oh the fucking irony). Labour in Scotland in disarray, their core support deserting them. Mr Bean caught between two stools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm going with the OP on this one. Cameron playing the nationalist card in England (oh the fucking irony). Labour in Scotland in disarray, their core support deserting them. Mr Bean caught between two stools. Yes losing their referendum. SNP losing their talismanic leader and ending up with the hopeless Sturgeon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 A hung parliament and a Lib Dem collapse are almost mutually exclusive. Given that outside of the Northern Irish seats there are about 10 MPs that don't belong to one of the big 3, if the Lib Dems are reduced to a handful of seats then it's almost impossible that one or the other isn't over 326, given that you could have well over 600 Lab and Con combined MPs. Even allowing for the abstentionism of SF, you are still probably looking at 20 to 25 before any Lib Dems are factored in (they won't be completely wiped out, because they'll still have a few based on a personal vote plus Orkney & Shetland), so a hung parliament could easily happen in a close election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Yes losing their referendum. SNP losing their talismanic leader and ending up with the hopeless Sturgeon.. Interesting (but not surprising) to see some folk crawling out of the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29335028 Pesky Scotland, poor david. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Yes losing their referendum. SNP losing their talismanic leader and ending up with the hopeless Sturgeon.. Btw GD went in hiding for at least 2 days before posting his "defiant" sh**e posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Btw GD went in hiding for at least 2 days before posting his "defiant" sh**e posts I dont think anyone will be taking posting tips from a self confessed liar who rocked up onto a fitba forum three days before the Indy ref for a bout of political trolling. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Yes losing their referendum. SNP losing their talismanic leader and ending up with the hopeless Sturgeon.. Came crawling back off twitter eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I dont think anyone will be taking posting tips from a self confessed liar who rocked up onto a fitba forum three days before the Indy ref for a bout of political trolling. HTH. Orly? This should be good...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPSAFalkirkFirm Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I can see it being a hung parliament quite easily, and a minority government given the Lib Dems will have been obliterated also. So, regardless of historical loyalties, if all those disavowed NO voters who've just been shafted, plus the 1.6m, plus anyone with a conscience, plus anyone with a moral compass all vote SNP and return 40-50 SNP MPs to Westminster wouldn't that give Scotland some very powerful negotiating tools in a minority government scenario. Hell, Cameron would probably let us go if it meant indomitable power in Englandshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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