FrontPage Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Let's face it, I fire improvements on Lamont down the pan on a daily basis, she really is easy to improve on, Sturgeon might be doing a Moyes though. I'm sure if Moyes had spent years as second in command he wouldn't have lost the dressing room instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I would be a big improvement on Johann Lamont, so asking whether Murphy would be better is completely inconsequential to the question of whether he'd be a good leader of Scottish Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm sure if Moyes had spent years as second in command he wouldn't have lost the dressing room instantly. It has less to do with keeping the dressing room and more to do with following a top operator. If Salmond had chosen to be a Tory or Labourite he'd have attained high office and shone in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Jim Murphy on Wikileaks. https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08LONDON3152_a.html How does this spoon have any credibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Haven't read this through but Murphy is a lying c**t. None of them improve on any other. They're all lying c***s - so no improvement is possible. He might speak better but it'll all be shite so makes no odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Well worth revisiting this thread to have a look at some of the answers and if opinion has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Tibbs Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Clearly not an improvement. It was obvious from the start that he was sent from central office and is a proxy for the london branch. Lamont was an improvement on Gray by my reckoning. Although much derided, i'd rather have a pitbull fighting my corner than a poodle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkJRxoEOHBQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Clearly not an improvement. It was obvious from the start that he was sent from central office and is a proxy for the london branch. Lamont was an improvement on Gray by my reckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 I like the comparison of Nicola Sturgeon and David Moyes the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I like the comparison of Nicola Sturgeon and David Moyes the best. She's surpassed Moyes comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 As an SNP member I think Murphy is an 'improvement'. He has been even more of a disaster than Lamont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Wrong Yes Wrong An area they totally neglected during opposition in Holyrood. Lamont and that teacher guy that hid in Subway are fucking useless. I'm quite happy to see them with useless c***s as leaders regardless, and of course the SNP are going to have the utter shambles that will be Sturgeon so it should be quite funny at Holyrood, especially with some new "levers" for slaphead Swinney to pull, or more likely,quietly dump when nobody is looking so they can carry on pretending they are hard done to.. Right I disagree. I'd say he's much more awful than people make out. A smug, dishonest, unprincipled, shouty wanker. ETA: also sneering and opportunistic. If I think of any more. I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Well worth revisiting this thread to have a look at some of the answers and if opinion has changed. I stand by my comments last autumn lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Kezia an improvement on wee Jum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's no accident he turned one of Scotland's safest Tory seat into one of Labour's safest. Taking aside his politics he does have a reputation of being one of the hardest working constituency MPs - I think he averages something like 2 constituency surgeries a day - some going considering he's at Westminster for most of the week. Politically he's not stupid either - has built his career on forging links with the right people - his flip-flop on Israel-Palestine is well-known - all related to getting the UJS vote to be elected President of NUS UK. As a political operator he's probably smarter than Lamont - I'd be more worried over the sort of politics he'd bring. Yip I think he'd suit Sturgeon perfectly for debates and First Minister's questions. His style of debating is shouting and fire breathing which would play exactly into the hands of 'poor wee woman' Sturgeon who's used that tactic effectively numerous times before. It's not hard to be an improvement on Lamont, she makes Gray look competent. It's a pity it'll all happen (If it does) after Salmond's long gone as I would have liked to see him dish out a weekly does of telt to Murphy, and there's no-one that could do it quite as good as Salmond can. Never to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 You've got to hand it to Jim Murphy. He took Labour back to their roots. They started out with one MP in 1906. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Kezia an improvement on wee Jum? Nope. I think she'll turn out to be exactly the same as him. She quite clearly hasn't learnt anything in the past few months - everything she does is still the "SNP bad" rubbish that lost them the votes in Scotland. If she doesn't like what they do, then she should counter with better ideas of her own. Slagging everyone off gets nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Kezia an improvement on wee Jum? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Bet Johann Lamont quietly had a good laugh at the Westminster crew losing their seats. "Stab me in the back ya bunch of bazzas" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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