Confidemus Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29386646 The Scottish Breakdown: MPs against Labour Dame Anne Begg (Aberdeen South) Katy Clark (Ayrshire North & Arran) Ian Davidson (Glasgow South West) Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North & Leith) Iain McKenzie (Inverclyde) SNP Stewart Hosie (Dundee East) - Scottish National Party (SNP) Angus MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) - SNP Angus Robertson (Moray) - SNP Mike Weir (Angus) - SNP Eilidh Whiteford (Banff & Buchan) - SNP Pete Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) - SNP MPs in favour Conservartive David Mundell (Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale) Liberal Democrats Danny Alexander (Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey) Malcolm Bruce (Gordon) Sir Menzies Campbell (Fife North East) Alistair Carmichael (Orkney & Shetland) Michael Crockart (Edinburgh West) Michael Moore (Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk) Alan Reid (Argyll & Bute) Sir Robert Smith (Aberdeenshire West & Kincardine) Jo Swinson (Dunbartonshire East) Labour Douglas Alexander (Paisley & Renfrewshire South) Willie Bain (Glasgow North East) Gordon Banks (Ochil & Perthshire South) Russell Brown (Dumfries & Galloway) Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill) Alistair Darling (Edinburgh South West) Thomas Docherty (Dunfermline & Fife West) Gemma Doyle (Dunbartonshire West) Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen & Hamilton West) Tom Harris (Glasgow South) Jim Hood (Lanark & Hamilton East) Cathy Jamieson (Kilmarnock & Loudoun) Michael McCann (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow) Jim McGovern (Dundee West) Jim Murphy (Renfrewshire East) Pamela Nash (Airdrie & Shotts) Sandra Osborne (Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock) John Robertson (Glasgow North West) Lindsay Roy (Glenrothes) Anas Sarwar (Glasgow Central) Jim Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North) Others Eric Joyce (Falkirk) - Independent Abstensions Liberal Democrats Charles Kennedy (Ross, Skye & Lochaber) John Thurso (Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross) Labour Gordon Brown (Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath) Michael Connarty (Linlithgow & Falkirk East) Margaret Curran (Glasgow East) Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central) Frank Doran (Aberdeen North) Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) David Hamilton (Midlothian) Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch East) Anne McGuire (Stirling) Ann McKechin (Glasgow North) Graeme Morrice (Livingston) Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) Fiona O'Donnell (East Lothian) Frank Roy (Motherwell & Wishaw) Thoughts? Representative of the electorate they're representing? Edited to add Jim Murphy and to tidy it up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I don't need to check the list - my MP wouldn't have been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I was going to say that I was amazed Gordon Brown was there, but I forgot he's trying to hold the three amigos to account. That'll keep him busy, given they are all fucking snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 McKenzie was sacked as an aide to the Shadow Defence Secretary for voting No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 My MP is against. God bless the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 More proof that those nasty Nats support IS. Sturgeon will be beheading no voters next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Frank Roy abstained. Nice to see an MP having some balls and doing his job in Parliament by voting on big decisions. What a fucking waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Mine did. IS are an evil organisation and the fact that there are politicians who won't actively stop them is a disgrace imo. I'd be angry if my MSP didn't vote in favour of air strikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Both of my MPs in favour of destroying the IS scum. Very very pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Both of my MPs in favour of destroying the IS scum. Very very pleasing. I am surprised by this post. Would be nice to know your real opinion, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bojangles Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Frank Roy abstained. Nice to see an MP having some balls and doing his job in Parliament by voting on big decisions. What a fucking waste of space. To be fair, I'm amazed my MP abstained. She's usually on the opposite side to absolutely everything I believe in. Her sitting on the fence is about the best I could possibly hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 No surprise to see Jim McGovern vote in favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Mine did. IS are an evil organisation and the fact that there are politicians who won't actively stop them is a disgrace imo. I'd be angry if my MSP didn't vote in favour of air strikes Sending six planes to bomb them - and undoubtedly kill innocent civilians, just as IS supposedly do - is a token effort. It may also be seen as a fairly cowardly act by some in that part of the world, as they won't fight them on the ground. Instead they prefer to play god and drop death from above. Will bombing IS make them more or less likely to plan attacks on the UK? Also, are they ISIS, IS or ISIL? Very confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontPage Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Its not in our interests to have a strong or wealthy country outwith our influence in the middle east, another 100 years of civil unrest and funding all sides, puppet government, tribal disputes and general anarchy suits us just fine. It's easier to negotiate 'reconstruction', arms or energy deals with tinpot generals and whichever unorganised gang they happen to lead than it ever would be an elected leader of a stable or rich country. UK and US corporations have been doing well out of the region for decades so why should they do anything to change that. Not such a good deal for those on the ground, fairly neutral for us, doesn't change our lot bombing people either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 What's this got to do with the Independence Debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Mine did. IS are an evil organisation and the fact that there are politicians who won't actively stop them is a disgrace imo. I'd be angry if my MSP didn't vote in favour of air strikes The Scottish govt has an air forece now??? Am in two minds about this but... I do know that every missile we fire costs £1m. That's £1m we won't have, or apparently don't want to, spend on other things such as the NHS, better public transport or the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Lastly, IS are evil but is that it? What about Boku Harum (spelling?) or the other various groupings that are slaughtering people in the Middle-East, Africa or Indonesia? Are we gonna go after them all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Frank Roy abstained. Nice to see an MP having some balls and doing his job in Parliament by voting on big decisions. What a fucking waste of space. He really is an absolute cretin. Somehow been MP for this area for god knows how long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Here's some info on the costs from Sky. It won't be cheap. And, aren't we already £1.3trillion in debt, and counting? And, we absolutely don't have any money for pay rises, NHS or pensions? http://news.sky.com/story/1342768/how-much-will-airstrikes-on-is-cost-taxpayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 My MP, along with every other SNP MP, voting against it I see. I don't think this tells us as much as we'd believe. I saw a UKIP guy on the telly saying he supported airstrikes provided it didn't eventually lead to more ground troops being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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