Crùbag Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I kind of like the idea of IS being wiped out but something tells me that that in itself will just lead to more pain in the end. We've been meddling in this area for a century or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Is this poster Wan Bawbag an alias of Casual Bystander because his questions are as stupid and he sounds delusional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Is this poster Wan Bawbag an alias of Casual Bystander because his questions are as stupid and he sounds delusional? How very, very ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 He really is an absolute cretin. Somehow been MP for this area for god knows how long. He worked at Ravenscraig and became a politicians PA afterwards. He rised through the ranks of the Labour Party afterwards. All pretty attractive attributes on the surface for our areas in all fairness. Sadly I think he will keep his seat at 2015 elections but he may not have the landslide majority as he did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Pleased that my MP had the courage to say we should be intervening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Pleased that my MP had the courage to say we should be intervening here. Still on the troll eh Libbers? Sigh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker-T Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29386646 The Scottish Breakdown: MPs against Labour Dame Anne Begg (Aberdeen South) Katy Clark (Ayrshire North & Arran) Ian Davidson (Glasgow South West) Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North & Leith) Iain McKenzie (Inverclyde) SNP Stewart Hosie (Dundee East) - Scottish National Party (SNP) Angus MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) - SNP Angus Robertson (Moray) - SNP Mike Weir (Angus) - SNP Eilidh Whiteford (Banff & Buchan) - SNP Pete Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) - SNP MPs in favour Conservartive David Mundell (Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale) Liberal Democrats Danny Alexander (Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey) Malcolm Bruce (Gordon) Sir Menzies Campbell (Fife North East) Alistair Carmichael (Orkney & Shetland) Michael Crockart (Edinburgh West) Michael Moore (Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk) Alan Reid (Argyll & Bute) Sir Robert Smith (Aberdeenshire West & Kincardine) Jo Swinson (Dunbartonshire East) Labour Douglas Alexander (Paisley & Renfrewshire South) Willie Bain (Glasgow North East) Gordon Banks (Ochil & Perthshire South) Russell Brown (Dumfries & Galloway) Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill) Alistair Darling (Edinburgh South West) Thomas Docherty (Dunfermline & Fife West) Gemma Doyle (Dunbartonshire West) Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen & Hamilton West) Tom Harris (Glasgow South) Jim Hood (Lanark & Hamilton East) Cathy Jamieson (Kilmarnock & Loudoun) Michael McCann (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow) Jim McGovern (Dundee West) Jim Murphy (Renfrewshire East) Pamela Nash (Airdrie & Shotts) Sandra Osborne (Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock) John Robertson (Glasgow North West) Lindsay Roy (Glenrothes) Anas Sarwar (Glasgow Central) Jim Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North) Others Eric Joyce (Falkirk) - Independent Abstensions Liberal Democrats Charles Kennedy (Ross, Skye & Lochaber) John Thurso (Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross) Labour Gordon Brown (Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath) Michael Connarty (Linlithgow & Falkirk East) Margaret Curran (Glasgow East) Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central) Frank Doran (Aberdeen North) Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) David Hamilton (Midlothian) Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch East) Anne McGuire (Stirling) Ann McKechin (Glasgow North) Graeme Morrice (Livingston) Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) Fiona O'Donnell (East Lothian) Frank Roy (Motherwell & Wishaw) Thoughts? Representative of the electorate they're representing? Edited to add Jim Murphy and to tidy it up a bit. I hate that we call this air strikes, It's just an invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Coconut Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I kind of like the idea of IS being wiped out but something tells me that that in itself will just lead to more pain in the end. We've been meddling in this area for a century or more. I posted these links in the Isis thread but they're maybe relevant in here. As you say we've been f#cking about in there for a century to no avail so I can't see Dave sorting it out anytime soon. It's only going to cost £4bn apparently as well so seems like a bargain. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2014/feb/11/britain-100-years-of-conflict http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Still on the troll eh Libbers? Sigh.... No trolling. This military action is completely justified. I hate that we call this air strikes, It's just an invasion. Oh aye, good one. Who are we invading then? We are responding to a request from the Iraqi Government to assist them with defending against a theocratic paramilitary organisation committing war crimes against its citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Ah yes i wonder why iraq is in such a mess,could it be anything to do with the illegal invasion that the same labour cowards darling and murphy also voted in favour for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I voted against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 CC ICT Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Also, are they ISIS, IS or ISIL? Very confusing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 No trolling. This military action is completely justified. Says who? Oh aye, good one. Who are we invading then? We are responding to a request from the Iraqi Government to assist them with defending against a theocratic paramilitary organisation committing war crimes against its citizens. Is that the same theocratic paramilitary organisation we were happy to help before they started committing war crimes against Iraqi citizens or a different one? Westminster appear to think that changing their name every other day will help us forget who they were originally. I hope Davieboy is taking plenty of advice from Tony the peace lover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE Yes, that sort of thing. Who keeps changing their name? Is it them or the media?My preference, if they're going for another name change, would be Nutty Head Choppers People Front. Not very catchy though - NHCPF. Need to try and play around with the words and come up with an acronym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pleased that my MP had the courage to say we should be intervening here.Team UK: World Police.When we feel like it. Bet all those other baddies around the world are glad they weren't stupid enough to make any gruesome beheading videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 This is one time I'm pleased we are intervening. Its absolutely the right thing to be doing this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Here's some info on the costs from Sky. It won't be cheap. And, aren't we already £1.3trillion in debt, and counting? And, we absolutely don't have any money for pay rises, NHS or pensions? http://news.sky.com/story/1342768/how-much-will-airstrikes-on-is-cost-taxpayer You have no understanding of economics. We can ALWAYS find money for wars, doesn't matter how bad the country's debt situation. I kind of like the idea of IS being wiped out but something tells me that that in itself will just lead to more pain in the end. We've been meddling in this area for a century or more. That's a brilliant, concise summary of the rank hypocrisy of the US and the UK. Ah yes i wonder why iraq is in such a mess,could it be anything to do with the illegal invasion that the same labour cowards darling and murphy also voted in favour for. It's a funny old world when one wee, illegal war leads to a complete clusterfuck that has no end in sight. I think we should ask the Middle East peace envoy, Tony Blair, for his thoughts. We'd have to pay him of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Both of my MPs in favour of destroying the IS scum. Very very pleasing. Have you signed up to do anything about IS yourself? Or are you just happy for others to do that for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 No trolling. This military action is completely justified. Oh aye, good one. Who are we invading then? We are responding to a request from the Iraqi Government to assist them with defending against a theocratic paramilitary organisation committing war crimes against its citizens. Nothing to do with freeing up the US to concentrate on Syria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 This is one time I'm pleased we are intervening. Its absolutely the right thing to be doing this time. You do know that it's what IS want also? They want a holy war, the UK and US want the oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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