banana Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I can safely say that if that bitch Hopkins becomes a regular on the show then I will stop watching completely. An absolute waste of oxygen. She's given enough air time as it is. Aye, it'd turn things into an even bigger circus. I'd like to see some proper left field appointment. Julian Clarey or Eric Bristow, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The final is aired on Sunday, 9pm. Enjoyed watching 'Why I fired them' last night - it amazing how there are people on it that you had forgotten were even in it. Lynsey the swimming instructor, for instance, who virtually walked voluntarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Yeah I think the singer will take over from Hewer. Did he not beat Sheamus once? In Irish-Whip Wrestling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 It would be pish with Ricky as an overseer as it would look more like a shitey gimmick than being a trusted adviser to Sugar plus he was utterly useless in the interviews, offering f**k all insight. The BBC wouldnt get Hopkins, that would be an ITV2 move, and there is no way Claude would last past the first task before telling 3/4 of the team to f**k off home as they were all useless wastes of space. Going back it was obvious as soon as they had the piece on Roisin crying at the beginning about how much it meant to her that she was going as its an old Apprentice editing tactic. The moment that ready meal was brought out was class as was the appearance of Solomon's phone so he could run thru his ideas. No idea how Bianca is thru to the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Surely, though, that is where the idea falls down. If we are looking at a centralised website for events, the difficulties in setting up a large event means such a website would be fairly redundant because any request would need to be double-checked next to the specificities of a particular venue. Such as those in my above post. It would also be such a complicated process online for an event in, for example, Edinburgh, that you would just end up having to discuss through your requests with an events coordinator who could advise of catering, room availability, car drop-off points, staff availabilty for dropping off eg. flowers, access for setting up rooms/halls, DJ access, and who could then organise deliveries and pick-ups etc and staff. Never mind, take responsibility for the overall delivery of the event. It might work for small venues for small events and be highly localised to specific venues, in which case there's little scope for making money from a lot of online traffic. Again, I think your confusing the actual organisation of an event with the booking process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It would be pish with Ricky as an overseer as it would look more like a shitey gimmick than being a trusted adviser to Sugar plus he was utterly useless in the interviews, offering f**k all insight. The BBC wouldnt get Hopkins, that would be an ITV2 move, and there is no way Claude would last past the first task before telling 3/4 of the team to f**k off home as they were all useless wastes of space. Going back it was obvious as soon as they had the piece on Roisin crying at the beginning about how much it meant to her that she was going as its an old Apprentice editing tactic. The moment that ready meal was brought out was class as was the appearance of Solomon's phone so he could run thru his ideas. No idea how Bianca is thru to the final. Bianca's through because she avoided the boardroom every single week (I think?) and has the best idea of them all. If it was the old style apprentice, she wouldn't have gotten past the interviews IMO. Roisin was easily the strongest candidate and would've won if it was a 'job', much like Helen a few years back when the mad inventor Tom won. Because it's an actual business, they fell down because their ideas were pretty shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Bianca's through because she avoided the boardroom every single week (I think?) and has the best idea of them all. If it was the old style apprentice, she wouldn't have gotten past the interviews IMO. Roisin was easily the strongest candidate and would've won if it was a 'job', much like Helen a few years back when the mad inventor Tom won. Because it's an actual business, they fell down because their ideas were pretty shite. Roisins idea wasnt that bad though, it was her business plan that let her down. Tom won despite having a bad idea and a bad business plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Bianca's through because she avoided the boardroom every single week (I think?) and has the best idea of them all. If it was the old style apprentice, she wouldn't have gotten past the interviews IMO. Roisin was easily the strongest candidate and would've won if it was a 'job', much like Helen a few years back when the mad inventor Tom won. Because it's an actual business, they fell down because their ideas were pretty shite. Not convinced about this. Bianca made one absolutely stellar cock up that everyone remembers. That apart she's been quietly effective throughout the series. Not by any means the most obviously good (that was Roisin as you say) or showy (Mark) but competent enough, probably edging Katie as the second best girl. I don't think there's any doubt she'd have gone boardroom week if her team hadn't won but otherwise I imagine there's every chance she'd still be here, especially since it's been made clear Sugar is fully aware of the business proposals from the start this time. Roisin should have won if it was a job, maybe even would have done. I'm not certain though. Sugar has in the past made a point of getting rid of accountants and lawyers because he has enough of them in his business already and doesn't want any more. I think he'd have found a way to bin here anyway in favour of a Daniel or a Mark. Of course that sort of attitude is exactly why he so often picked candidates for jobs that he couldn't work with for more than a short period and ended up changing the format of the show int he first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The fact they are not working for a job is stupid. It's a glorified dragons den for people who can't get money from the banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The no-job thing doesn't bother me so much, but I do think the title is no longer appropriate. What would be wrong with a re-badge? Some suggestions: The Business Partner Lord Al's £250,000 Giveaway Alan's Ally The Sugar Daddy The Lord's Heir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groaninjock Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 The no-job thing doesn't bother me so much, but I do think the title is no longer appropriate. What would be wrong with a re-badge? Some suggestions: The Business Partner Lord Al's £250,000 Giveaway Alan's Ally The Sugar Daddy The Lord's Heir Sugar Man and The Brady Bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sugar Man and The Brady Bunch Hewer you to judge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Roisins idea wasnt that bad though, it was her business plan that let her down. Tom won despite having a bad idea and a bad business plan. I remember his business plan at the time being an absolute shanner, but it was quickly shelved and focused on the "StylFile" nail file. And he's obviously doing quite well for himself with it, cause that thing is all over the place, from high street shops to duty free on the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rosisin got shown up to be absolutely thick as f**k and deluded in the end. To think you could take 250k and go and compete in the ready meals industry against giants like Kraft and Heinz was mental. Even just to start that idea in the UK and forget the global element I still think you are talking many millions. Sugar has also rejected good business plans in the past because he wasn't comfortable with the idea of using someone else's money. I still don't know what Solomon's business was. Daniels I didn't like but then again there is so much online that initially you have thought would never work. I always said online grocery shopping could never fully work as you don't get to see quality of fresh produce but turns out no one cares. Mark's. Such a crowded marketplace. Bianca. I had no idea there was even a gap in the market here. It would fit into markets sugar has previously invested in with stylefile, tropical skin care and the Dr Leah stuff ie fleecing money out of daft women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rosisin got shown up to be absolutely thick as f**k and deluded in the end. To think you could take 250k and go and compete in the ready meals industry against giants like Kraft and Heinz was mental. Even just to start that idea in the UK and forget the global element I still think you are talking many millions. Sugar has also rejected good business plans in the past because he wasn't comfortable with the idea of using someone else's money. I still don't know what Solomon's business was. Daniels I didn't like but then again there is so much online that initially you have thought would never work. I always said online grocery shopping could never fully work as you don't get to see quality of fresh produce but turns out no one cares. Mark's. Such a crowded marketplace. Bianca. I had no idea there was even a gap in the market here. It would fit into markets sugar has previously invested in with stylefile, tropical skin care and the Dr Leah stuff ie fleecing money out of daft women. I think Solomon's business was basically taking ideas and helping people logistically, ie putting them in touch with suppliers, manufacturers etc and arranging deliveries. A couple of friends of mine pooled some money a few years ago to get some specialist bags made and they managed it all themselves but I think it could be someting that people would want to do. Not sure if there's that much money in it - there would be small margins as if you charge too much people will just think 'f**k this I'll do it myself'. Obviously his business plan wasn't detailed enough so couldn't be explored. One point that Daniel made about Mark, which was valid i think, was that he's always worked for other people, he's never run something himself. There's a world of difference between doing something and running a business. not all great salesmen will be able to run a sales firm, they have different skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I remember his business plan at the time being an absolute shanner, but it was quickly shelved and focused on the "StylFile" nail file. And he's obviously doing quite well for himself with it, cause that thing is all over the place, from high street shops to duty free on the plane. Yes, theres no doubt hes done very well for himself since the show. He still won with an awful business plan though I think Solomon's business was basically taking ideas and helping people logistically, ie putting them in touch with suppliers, manufacturers etc and arranging deliveries. A couple of friends of mine pooled some money a few years ago to get some specialist bags made and they managed it all themselves but I think it could be someting that people would want to do. Not sure if there's that much money in it - there would be small margins as if you charge too much people will just think 'f**k this I'll do it myself'. Obviously his business plan wasn't detailed enough so couldn't be explored. One point that Daniel made about Mark, which was valid i think, was that he's always worked for other people, he's never run something himself. There's a world of difference between doing something and running a business. not all great salesmen will be able to run a sales firm, they have different skills. I thought it was simpler than that. I got the impression that he was going to provide storage and delivery for, mainly, student start ups. They'd have their goods shipped into his warehouse and he would deal with storage and order fulfilment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandGer Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Again, I think your confusing the actual organisation of an event with the booking process. Daniel's plan was surely not a booking site though. Individual venues have online booking and some places share sites. Daniel's plan was a centralised online event organisation, so booking, and food, drink etc etc. There could be no money in a booking site because it could not attract the online traffic for smaller events, for which it might be suitable, and no one organising a big event would try to go through a website to do so. The very best a website like that could offer would be available dates, rooms, and numbers. And yet, even the numbers are variable based on seating, catering, stage etc etc. Some halls can cater for maximum 250 or maximum 100 depending on what the client wants for set-up. There is no chance a centralised website can sort out those details, thus it would be fairly redundant. I think Daniel even admitted this on Fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The fact that Sarah is back for the final surely confirms that she is a plant. Mark should have made Daniel his first pick just for a laugh then made him do menial bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 2 gussets?! Are these tights for the extra 'seepy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The fact that Sarah is back for the final surely confirms that she is a plant. And her 'climb online' comment removed any doubt. Think Bianca's design is shite. She'll have bit issues with her pricing as many are pointing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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