Miguel Sanchez Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 A guy I went to school with and who was popular among my group of friends went to St. Andrews. On one of his trips back to see folk he stole money from one of his pals, lied about it, and his parents defended him for it. A complete vortex of arseholery that sucks you in and warps you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I said Abertay because - Edinburgh and St Andrews will be full of snobs, Stirling is an isolated town and he will be stuck in a small community, Aberdeen too cold and too many prostitutes so it narrowed it down to Dundee and i have a friend who went to Abertay and at school was a retard but did well for himself after going there. Dundee is a no bad place for a student and has a decent mix of students/chavs, isn't too small but not too big either and relatively priced accommodation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Anyway Romeo, sent the poor c**t to Dundee. I'm sure he'll be well looked after. Thought you said Dundee was full of Hoors? Oh, right.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie95 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Sadly, as someone applying to go to University, this year, in order to also do History: Dundee (I know but my girlfriend keeps telling me it's not bad), Glasgow Uni and Aberdeen have all look quite good and I've heard good things about it from a couple of people studying there. However, my vote goes to Edinburgh, for the nightlife and also because it's meant to be a great Uni. Edited October 28, 2014 by Richie95 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Sadly, as someone applying to go to University, this year, in order to also do History: Dundee (I know but my girlfriends keeps telling me it's not bad), Glasgow Uni and Aberdeen have all look quite good and I've heard good things about it from a couple of people studying there. However, my vote goes to Edinburgh, for the nightlife and also because it's meant to be a great Uni. Aye, right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Generally speaking, are entry requirements for St Andrews similar to Edinburgh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Sadly, as someone applying to go to University, this year, in order to also do History: Dundee (I know but my girlfriend keeps telling me it's not bad), Glasgow Uni and Aberdeen have all look quite good and I've heard good things about it from a couple of people studying there. However, my vote goes to Edinburgh, for the nightlife and also because it's meant to be a great Uni. Can I ask what career you expect to get out of doing history? Two of my mates went to do history at St. Andrews. One changed after first year to do Accounting & Business Admin or somesuch, and she's now a very well paid Auditor for Delloites in America. The other stuck to history, and is in a fairly low paid events coordination job, 7 years after graduating. Fortunately for her, her husband is an architect. I have another mate who did Politics & Philosophy. He now, also after 7 years, finally has a reasonable (yet fairly low paid job) for Creative Scotland. I just never got the concept of doing degrees like these. Edit: Maybe it's a question I should be aiming at some of the older guys who've done this and gone on to find a market for themselves. Edited October 28, 2014 by Spain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can I ask what career you expect to get out of doing history? Two of my mates went to do history at St. Andrews. One changed after first year to do Accounting & Business Admin or somesuch, and she's now a very well paid Auditor for Delloites in America. The other stuck to history, and is in a fairly low paid events coordination job, 7 years after graduating. Fortunately for her, her husband is an architect. I have another mate who did Politics & Philosophy. He now, also after 7 years, finally has a reasonable (yet fairly low paid job) for Creative Scotland. I just never got the concept of doing degrees like these. The research skills you get from a history degree stand you in good stead for any research-based job, and anything that involves bringing together a lot of resarch/data to come to come up with a coherently written and well argued report. This can apply to quite a wide range of sectors. With degrees like history, politics etc for most people it'll be about developing transferable skills and being able to demonstrate to employers that you'll be able to put them to good use in work situations. Comparatively few people will either remain in academia or get a job in a sector in which history as an academic discipline will be directly relevant, but it certainly increases your employability. Afterwards, how well you do with your career will depend on being able to demonstrate once in actual employment that you've actually gained genuine skills which you're able to put to good use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The research skills you get from a history degree stand you in good stead for any research-based job, and anything that involves bringing together a lot of resarch/data to come to come up with a coherently written and well argued report. This can apply to quite a wide range of sectors. With degrees like history, politics etc for most people it'll be about developing transferable skills and being able to demonstrate to employers that you'll be able to put them to good use in work situations. Comparatively few people will either remain in academia or get a job in a sector in which history as an academic discipline will be directly relevant, but it certainly increases your employability. Afterwards, how well you do with your career will depend on being able to demonstrate once in actual employment that you've actually gained genuine skills which you're able to put to good use.Get your fu<king headset on and answer the fu<king phone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niseach Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) The research skills you get from a history degree stand you in good stead for any research-based job, and anything that involves bringing together a lot of resarch/data to come to come up with a coherently written and well argued report. This can apply to quite a wide range of sectors. With degrees like history, politics etc for most people it'll be about developing transferable skills and being able to demonstrate to employers that you'll be able to put them to good use in work situations. Comparatively few people will either remain in academia or get a job in a sector in which history as an academic discipline will be directly relevant, but it certainly increases your employability. Afterwards, how well you do with your career will depend on being able to demonstrate once in actual employment that you've actually gained genuine skills which you're able to put to good use. So you don't actually know what you want to do, and are getting a degree so that you can say I have a degree? Sound. As far as being able to get a job goes, you'll be stuck behind people who studied a course relevant to the degree. ETA: As the good Serge alludes to above, you're destined for Frankie and Bennys. Edited October 28, 2014 by Niseach 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 University of Life should be an option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Get your fu<king headset on and answer the fu<king phone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdsm Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I studied English at Glasgow and loved it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can I ask what career you expect to get out of doing history? Two of my mates went to do history at St. Andrews. One changed after first year to do Accounting & Business Admin or somesuch, and she's now a very well paid Auditor for Delloites in America. The other stuck to history, and is in a fairly low paid events coordination job, 7 years after graduating. Fortunately for her, her husband is an architect. I have another mate who did Politics & Philosophy. He now, also after 7 years, finally has a reasonable (yet fairly low paid job) for Creative Scotland. I just never got the concept of doing degrees like these. Edit: Maybe it's a question I should be aiming at some of the older guys who've done this and gone on to find a market for themselves. Unless you have a specific job you want which requires a particular degree I think people are best just going for something they will enjoy. I had no idea what I wanted to do wen I was 17, so studied PPE as I thought it would be interesting. Finished my degree still unsure so I worked in a cafe and went to Glasgow Uni to study more whilst I decided. Now I've a job that has nothing to do with anything I've studied but I enjoy it, my prospects are good and I loved my degrees and everything I learnt. A lot of jobs seem to just want you to have a degree and don't seem overly bothered with what it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 So you don't actually know what you want to do, and are getting a degree so that you can say I have a degree? Sound. As far as being able to get a job goes, you'll be stuck behind people who studied a course relevant to the degree. ETA: As the good Serge alludes to above, you're destined for Frankie and Bennys. Why are you so angry about this? FWIW, I already have a degree and am now doing a Masters. I'm going to follow that with a PhD and then plan to stay in academia. You're going to notice that my post up to this point has been a good bit more civil than yours. Please don't allow that to leave you under the impression that I see you as anything other than a boorish, university of life attending dullard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton75 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 My son went to a university fair thing tonight where all the big Uni's were handing out their prospectus. I can't promise he will go the University P&B chooses but I will do my best. So where should he go and why? Also where shouldn't he go and why. He want's to study English & history if that helps. He'll be able to help you on use of apostrophes then! Turning my dick setting off, out of that list - Edinburgh. Its History and English departments are good, and there is a decentish nightlife. You can bung him in Halls for 1st year and he can share pleasingly skanky flats for the next 3. Dundee is an alright city, but has less going on. St Andrews is pretty enough, but full of nobends. Stirling's campus is great, but it's just a campus. It's annoyingly a bit too far from Stirling town centre, so students are reduced to going to the union and the few bars and (awful) club in Bridge of Allan. Aberdeen is okay, but from a student's perspective it's basically a colder, greyer, smaller version of Edinburgh. All that said, unless you live in Glasgow and want rid of the bugger, I would send him there. The choice of bars and clubs pisses all over the other cities in Scotland. I'm not saying it should all be about the social life, but it does make a big difference at that age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 With regards to subjects such as English & History, what is it he expects to do with it in 5 years or so? If he genuinely has a specific interest in one branch of history and wants to follow that then as VT says, different unis are better at different subjects and the uni on his CV may be the difference in fulfilling that path at the end of the day. However, if there's not a lot between the unis and it's more the common case of "I just want a degree because everyone else is off to uni /sounds like something I'd be interested in / an intellectual sounding degree would be good on my CV for the future" then a I'd imagine that one of the unis with the cheaper expenses would be best. For example, accommodation in Aberdeen is rather expensive for many students compared to something closer to home for him. If the uni was close enough to home then (with your permission of course) he could stay at home for a year or two and save a fortune in student loan and let's be brutally realistic here - will an English & History degree allow him to jump into a job where the wage hike will be sufficient enough to cover those past expenses? Of course, there's always that old chestnut about experiencing the social scene etc etc but if the degree from one specific uni isn't going to make much difference, you really need to ask whether the difference in student loan + years of interest is really going to worth it. I'm not saying that it is or isn't but it certainly splits opinion and needs considering. ------ My personal case study is that I liked geology but after seeing wonderful careers such as £15k lab technician for a typical graduate job through my school's career office, I choose engineering as I felt it was far better as a vocational subject. With that, I was torn between Strathclyde, Edinburgh and Aberdeen. In the end it was Aberdeen that won because it was the only one which allowed you to cover Civil, Mechanical and Electrical before specialising in one of them. This appealed to me big time but without that I would have probably opted for the cheaper options of Edinburgh or Glasgow seeing as I stayed less than an hours commute away from both at the time. As chance had it, the engineering dept at Aberdeen is directly across the road from the geology one and as soon as I realised that it was more industry focused and far from a 'hobby subject' there, I jumped at it and haven't looked back. Unfortunately I had to move to Aberdeen to get the Central Belt blinkers taken off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The research skills you get from a history degree stand you in good stead for any research-based job, and anything that involves bringing together a lot of resarch/data to come to come up with a coherently written and well argued report. This can apply to quite a wide range of sectors. With degrees like history, politics etc for most people it'll be about developing transferable skills and being able to demonstrate to employers that you'll be able to put them to good use in work situations. Comparatively few people will either remain in academia or get a job in a sector in which history as an academic discipline will be directly relevant, but it certainly increases your employability. Afterwards, how well you do with your career will depend on being able to demonstrate once in actual employment that you've actually gained genuine skills which you're able to put to good use. Unless you have a specific job you want which requires a particular degree I think people are best just going for something they will enjoy. I had no idea what I wanted to do wen I was 17, so studied PPE as I thought it would be interesting. Finished my degree still unsure so I worked in a cafe and went to Glasgow Uni to study more whilst I decided. Now I've a job that has nothing to do with anything I've studied but I enjoy it, my prospects are good and I loved my degrees and everything I learnt. A lot of jobs seem to just want you to have a degree and don't seem overly bothered with what it is. Interesting viewpoint. It's not something I ever asked my old schoolmates about when they did it, because I didn't want them to think I was belittling their choices. So I was genuinely interested in the mindset. All of my uni-mates were Engineers (like me), Architects or studying Business of some sort. We all had obvious careers in mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niseach Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why are you so angry about this? FWIW, I already have a degree and am now doing a Masters. I'm going to follow that with a PhD and then plan to stay in academia. You're going to notice that my post up to this point has been a good bit more civil than yours. Please don't allow that to leave you under the impression that I see you as anything other than a boorish, university of life attending dullard. Because I care... Your comment about how few people remained in academia after studying history threw me off. Assumed you would also be hedging your bets against those who have a more relevant degree, but I was wrong, and for that I am sorry. Too may people go to uni because they do well enough in school, with no real plan for the future. That is a mistake. And that is where I was coming from with my initial, terribly worded post. As for Romeo's lad, I voted Aberdeen out of a sense of duty, but the cost of living here is a joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanetti Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 "Good news boy, I've consulted some football supporters on the internet and sent off your completed UCAS form this morning. Pack yer bags." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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