AberdeenBud Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Probably not gonna be popular here, but the more I watch it the more it looks justified to me. Straight leg, and Arquin's boot comes down with the studs showing above the ankle. Perhaps harsh but by the letter of the law probably a red. Can't see an appeal being successful but I thought that about Kenny's as well, so what do I know. Oh and we can put the tin foil hats away seemingly he was the intended 4th official and he comes from Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Westander of County Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Probably not gonna be popular here, but the more I watch it the more it looks justified to me. Straight leg, and Arquin's boot comes down with the studs showing above the ankle. Perhaps harsh but by the letter of the law probably a red. Can't see an appeal being successful but I thought that about Kenny's as well, so what do I know. Oh and we can put the tin foil hats away seemingly he was the intended 4th official and he comes from Aberdeen. Just when it seemed a good conspiracy was stoking up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 We all know pictures don't give a fair indication of what's happened though. Look at the second picture, it looks like the County boy has gone in with two feet. No it doesn't: (hint: that's Toshney kicking the ball) It looks to me as though he then tried to stretch for the ball and it was a coming together. Much ado about hee haw....yet again! Well no because even if that is the case (which I think it is), it doesn't mean it isn't a "red card offence". ...actually even though video with all the frames is better, what these snaps do show quite clearly is that Arquin stood on the ball squirting it out of picture by the time of the last picture. The County player swinging slightly late but making a fair attempt to clear the ball kicks into the sole of his boot in the last picture with Arquins boot no more than 5 or 6 inches off the ground. Sore yes but as the referee decided at the time no foul. Ridiculous decision. You actually what mate? We're going around in circles - and I do think it's a harsh red card - but it's pretty obvious why it was given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Far too many posts about the red card, it's not important in the grand scheme of things. The fact is we won and that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Both feet were off the ground as he made challenge, not together but both off the ground. The important issue is was it a Reckless challenge- my view is yes. I think when most people talk about two feet being off the ground, they're not counting one being 1m away from any contact :-). Stills really don't tell the story. It's NEVER a red. Scott Brown wouldn't even have a foul given against him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Arquin's studs clearly make contact with the player's ankle, both the video footage and the stills prove this. He's unlucky in the sense that if he'd done it anywhere else other than right in front of the 4th official he'd have been safe, but I'd be very surprised if the decision was rescinded on appeal (if St Mirren even bother). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Meh don't think we'd win the appeal. After seeing it on a big screen tv it's probably a red card. Definitely enough evidence for the 4th official to justify his decision anyway. I'd be shouting for it if it was against us ( strategic booing n that ) but you do see yellow cards given for tackles like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The strategic passiveness from the County faithful ensured that decision went our way. Not giving a toss > booing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I still think it is incredibly harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 No chance with the appeal. Wouldn't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Meh don't think we'd win the appeal. After seeing it on a big screen tv it's probably a red card. Definitely enough evidence for the 4th official to justify his decision anyway. I'd be shouting for it if it was against us ( strategic booing n that ) but you do see yellow cards given for tackles like that. The ref gave a throw in . Arquin made contact with the ball first, Toshney kicked the ball too, and there was contact. If Arquin was trying to 'do' Toshney then he'd have aimed at the player, not the ball. Can see a foul being given because of how it ended up, but it was not intentional, and was not reckless. I hope we appeal. The strategic passiveness from the County faithful ensured that decision went our way. Not giving a toss > booing I think maybe the lack of reaction from the fans was for the same reason as there was a lack of reaction from the ref and linesman - they didn't think there was anything in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 So, in the end, how many points did St Mirren get for their win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 So, in the end, how many points did St Mirren get for their win? Only the three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Only the three I'm sure I read it was a six pointer. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 So, in the end, how many points did St Mirren get for their win? More than Dundee got for their draw in Aberdeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deefiant Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Stick on red card. Once again St. Mirren fans failing to grasp the basic laws of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Where does the fact that Mallan put the ball in with his arm sit in the 'they are all out to get us' campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Where does the fact that Mallan put the ball in with his arm sit in the 'they are all out to get us' campaign? Makes up for the goal that wasn't given against Motherwell . The strategic booing paid off. We have a answer for everything haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It was a bad tackle, probably an orange card, TBH. Utterly no point appealing it. My observations based on the highlights alone: 1) shame Arquin's suspended now as he seemed to be have added a bit of crucial presence and mobility to our front line. 2) Kenny is on fire. He's playing the Ricky Gillies role from 2000/1, hopefully with a better end result. 3) Mallan looks great. You can see his style of play developing - relies on his reactions and pace to nick the ball away from clumsy defenders. Happy to take people on, he definitely looks the part. 4) I think appealing for consistency is the mantra of the team that's just had a player rightly sent off, but it can be frustrating when it feels like you've just seen a fourth official wade in on on-the-pitch matters for the first time ever, and it was to send your guy off. Or when you see the likes of Scott Brown kicking a player and receive absolutely no scrutiny whatsoever. 5) Was Jim Goodwin just angry cos he had a cold head? Seems much happier now he's got more hair. 6) Pounding the floor doesn't make pain go away. Fucking cúnt. 7) Richard Brittain still runs like a fanny. Even with Motherwell's game in hand, that three-point gap is encouraging. If we can pull off the highly unlikely on Wednesday night, and assume they succumb to a routine defeat at Parkhead, we could go ahead on goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We've appealed the red card. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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