Moo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Ork alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Yawn......I think I will read this thread again next week we may actually be talking about the game without being interrupted by Orks and Sheep molesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Cool story bro but here is the funny thing, Rangers died in a financial mess owing the Scottish public millions.. no one cares what you think HTH Good thought provoking response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Tony mowbary could have managed celtic to the title with the resources and situations they find themselves in right now , you can't really compare the scenarios as Deila does not have the pressure of being up against a strong/better rangers , the truth is had Deila got off to the start he had in a similar situation to when mowbary was at celtic he would have had the crowd screaming for him to get tae, and probably would not have lasted long after Christmas if celtic found themselves parped out of Europe and 9-15 points behind rangers. Also see le guen , the reason mowbary and le guen ultimately failed was because at rangers and celtic , the be all and end all was about being ahead of one and other and nothing else mattered , Deila is yet to face that kind of pressure and may not for a few years yet. I take your point that if Rangers didn't die and we fell behind them there's a fair chance he would have been punted. But the fact that we have a bit of room for error at the minute means it was the perfect time to bring someone like Deila in to try and change the ethos of the club so we can see the benefits long term. We were going nowhere under Lennon and it was right for him to go. Who were the options to replace him? Keane, Coyle, Mackay? Same old boring, prehistoric shite. We have a young, progressive European manager who has new ideas and a different style to what we are used to. We are already seeing the benefits less than a year in. The players are fitter and we are more attractive to watch. Under Lennon it was a chore watching Celtic but now I'm looking forward to the games again. As I've said, there were always going to be bumps along the road. But I've seen plenty to suggest we are in an excellent position long term and Deila is finally starting to unite the support again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I have no interest in responding to you, did you not pick up on that ork? And in doing so you have responded , good logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Forever Blue, you're forgetting Ronny outed himself as an apologist for racism to keep the pressure off him. He's now "one of their own". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I take your point that if Rangers didn't die and we fell behind them there's a fair chance he would have been punted. But the fact that we have a bit of room for error at the minute means it was the perfect time to bring someone like Deila in to try and change the ethos of the club so we can see the benefits long term. We were going nowhere under Lennon and it was right for him to go. Who were the options to replace him? Keane, Coyle, Mackay? Same old boring, prehistoric shite. We have a young, progressive European manager who has new ideas and a different style to what we are used to. We are already seeing the benefits less than a year in. The players are fitter and we are more attractive to watch. Under Lennon it was a chore watching Celtic but now I'm looking forward to the games again. As I've said, there were always going to be bumps along the road. But I've seen plenty to suggest we are in an excellent position long term and Deila is finally starting to unite the support again. I never said Deila was a bad manager , it was just unfair to compare him and mowbary's position , in actual fact I think celtic have done the right thing in going with a manager like Deila and infact should have maybe brought him or someone similar a season beforehand. Also what we should have looked to do in the 3rd division season but obviously that is a different topic for a different day . My point was had le guen or mowbary found themselves in the same position as Deila then they would have also won the title , but it just happened to be they were managers at a time when both clubs support had no time for patience and all that mattered was being in front of one another with long term plans not being taken into consideration. Deli as situation is incomparable and the reality is he would not have lasted had he found himself a distance behind a strong rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 What the f**k is this shit?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I never said Deila was a bad manager , it was just unfair to compare him and mowbary's position , in actual fact I think celtic have done the right thing in going with a manager like Deila and infact should have maybe brought him or someone similar a season beforehand. Also what we should have looked to do in the 3rd division season but obviously that is a different topic for a different day . My point was had le guen or mowbary found themselves in the same position as Deila then they would have also won the title , but it just happened to be they were managers at a time when both clubs support had no time for patience and all that mattered was being in front of one another with long term plans not being taken into consideration. Deli as situation is incomparable and the reality is he would not have lasted had he found himself a distance behind a strong rangers I never compared Deila and Mowbray. I compared Mowbray with McInnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I never compared Deila and Mowbray. I compared Mowbray with McInnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Even say it's a tenth, it's still a massive achievement to still only be 5 points behind. Or you could say Deila isn't as good as people are now saying he is. Up to you. It's not as massive an achievement as you think. Second highest budget in the division, so anything less than second place is a massive failure like last season finishing third to a club with a fraction of your clubs budget. The division has been depleted of three big clubs and on paper you would expect to see a higher points tally this season. Celtic had a dodgy start to the season under a new manager and is the main factor your club is only 5 points behind and I'm glad they are too, fcuk this wan legged donkey race. Deila ?, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I never compared Deila and Mowbray. I compared Mowbray with McInnes. Well maybe I have picked you up slightly wrong , however the point still stands , if macinnes was manager of celtic he would still lead them to the title with the resources available as that pressure which mowbary crumbled under would not be there , hence why Deila has also had time to build his team and style without that pressure to hinder him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Who the f**k thought it was a good idea to start the thread this early ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Well maybe I have picked you up slightly wrong , however the point still stands , if macinnes was manager of celtic he would still lead them to the title with the resources available as that pressure which mowbary crumbled under would not be there , hence why Deila has also had time to build his team and style without that pressure to hinder him.I edited my reply a minute after I posted it to make what I was trying to say clearer it's taken you about an hour and a half to type out your reply after quoting me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Has their ever been a rangers thread you have not posted in ? Pot..kettle and black springs to mind qc Swing and a miss young man, there is this orc match thread. http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/222149-rangers-v-raith-sunday-12th-april/ And this match thread, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221775-rangers-v-cowdenbeath/ And another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221526-hibernian-v-rangers/ And this one, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221573-rangers-vs-alloa/ Fcuk me another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221362-rangers-v-queen-of-the-south/ God another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/220376-cowdenbeath-v-rangers/ Does this answer your question ?, or will I post the many other Rangers related threads I haven't posted in ?. And FYI those matches weren't all matches that Sevco lost either it's around 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Who the f**k thought it was a good idea to start the thread this early ? Post of thread so far right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Swing and a miss young man, there is this orc match thread. http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/222149-rangers-v-raith-sunday-12th-april/ And this match thread, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221775-rangers-v-cowdenbeath/ And another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221526-hibernian-v-rangers/ And this one, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221573-rangers-vs-alloa/ Fcuk me another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/221362-rangers-v-queen-of-the-south/ God another, http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/220376-cowdenbeath-v-rangers/ Does this answer your question ?, or will I post the many other Rangers related threads I haven't posted in ?. And FYI those matches weren't all matches that Sevco lost either it's around 50/50. I don't know wether to laugh or cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I edited my reply a minute after I posted it to make what I was trying to say clearer it's taken you about an hour and a half to type out your reply after quoting me What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't know wether to laugh or cry Just piss off back to the Championship & sub human forum before you have a meltdown up here in the big boys division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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