jmothecat Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Aye, Saint Tony. Queen of our hearts. Did you join the wrong party by accident? Was there not a moment when everyone gathered roubd to sing the red flag when you went "hold on a minute..."? I joined when the great man was leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl. Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I joined when the great man was leader. ...I got nothing. Speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I joined when the great man was leader.He was leader when I was most sympathetic to their cause. I don't especially dream of a 1970s style Labour Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 He was leader when I was most sympathetic to their cause. I don't especially dream of a 1970s style Labour Party. Then at least be honest with yourself and vote Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 What I would like to know is, who decided Tony fucking Blair's input would assist matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nationalism is not a new phenomenon. When they talk about it being new politics, it is the oldest politics in the world. It’s the politics of the first caveman council, when the caveman came out from a council where there were difficult decisions and pointed with his club across the forest and said, ‘They’re the problem, over there, that’s the problem’. It’s blaming someone else. Well, he'd know all about cavemen having spent half his premiership bombing folk back to the stone age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I joined when the great man was leader. So, can I ask, just what is it that draws you to this kind of politics, socially, economically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 So, can I ask, just what is it that draws you to this kind of politics, socially, economically? He's not yet willing to concede that he's a moderate centre-right Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipped Flake Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Quote of the campaign. Blair absolutely nailing it. Must be really frustrating for him after the amount he did for the party to watch them fall back into the leftist comfort zone that many in the party apparently still want to return to. wow, just wow!!! Tony Blair killed the labour party in Scotland and you admire him?? On the party leader question I am torn. Corbyn is the only man that could save the labour party in Scotland so I suppose I want him to fail. On the other hand, if Tony Blair is against him I want him to win - decisions decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Corbyn is a seething mess under any scrutiny whatsoever, and Labour is already dead in Scotland. Let Corbyn win for the turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's a continuing problem in our political environment - people like Jmo who think saying "I am Labour" actually means anything in a political or ethical sense. The descent into troughing as a career choice which started decades ago, combined with a media which gleefully joins in with the "Unions are evil" bullshit, was always going to produce this result. Just saw Polly Toynbee on the Beeb, banging on yet again as to how Corbyn isn't a realistic choice, and that "Civil War" would ensue were he to win. Well, fucking good. These Labour MPs (Strangely unwilling to be named or quoted) who reckon he'd be a disaster are concerned for nothing more than their own careers. Well, fúck 'em - try standing on a platform of what you believe in, not what you think people want, or you're told is the latest poll result. Then we might have a Labour Party worthy of the name, not the collection of careerist, principle-free drones we've had to put up with for decades. A party to represent the working class, not Toynbee and her fellow-six figure earners. Not in power, perhaps, but unelectable? So Corbyn's on the "far left" with his socialist attitude and talk of ending austerity, and opposition to Trident replacement, and that makes him the wrong choice? Imagine what would happen if voters were offered the choice of a party dedicated to ending austerity, putting people before business, and redistribution of wealth through Land Reform? Oh, hang on - we don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Tony Blair does know a thing or two about winning elections, tbf. Corbyn would most likely be a complete disaster, hopefully he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 What I would like to know is, who decided Tony fucking Blair's input would assist matters? What I'd like to know is why Blair is still referred to as a Labour man, when he has never been one in his fucking life? Middle East Peace Envoy. Speech at the ICA. Jesus. Why do you never hear him referred to honestly - as a warmongering, lying, self-serving cúnt too poisonous to even be accepted into Thatcher's Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Tony Blair does know a thing or two about winning elections, tbf. Corbyn would most likely be a complete disaster, hopefully he wins. There used to be a club called rangers who knew a thing or two about winning trophies. It never helped the majority of the (footballing) population, only them - and that didn't end well either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl. Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Maybe when Rangers reformed, they should have changed their strips to green and white, renamed their stadium to Celtic Park, and tried to boost their crowds by tempting Celtic fans. After all, Celtic keep winning championships! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Well that's a terrible analogy. Not Blair's biggest fan but it's disingenuous to suggest he wasn't an extremely successful politican who still won elections after his so called warmongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl. Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Well that's a terrible analogy. Not Blair's biggest fan but it's disingenuous to suggest he wasn't an extremely successful politican who still won elections after his so called warmongering. "So called warmongering". Are you not getting mixed up with the "so called weapons of mass destruction"? Whats the point in winning if you just do what the other guys were going to do anyway? Why not just let the other guys do it? It seems utterly pointless all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Unfortunately, Blair is right on this one - if you think things are bad now then under Corbyn they would be manifestly worse. Think's with his heart and doesn't engage his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Then at least be honest with yourself and vote Tory.I don't consider New Labour to be anything like the Tories and what they are doing today. You obviously place the centre in a totally different place to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Unfortunately, Blair is right on this one - if you think things are bad now then under Corbyn they would be manifestly worse. Think's with his heart and doesn't engage his brain. Yeah, but turning the Labour party into some kind of Tory worshipping cargo cult isn't what I'd call engaging brains either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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