FuzzyAffro Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Give them back, the UK's colonial legacy and arrogance which persists to this day is staggering. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32735410 Elgin Marbles legal action ruled out by Greece 2 hours ago From the sectionUK About 30% of the original Parthenon Marbles are held in the British museumGreece has ruled out taking legal action against the UK to reclaim the Elgin Marbles from the British Museum. In an unexpected move, Greece's culture minister said the country would pursue a "diplomatic and political" approach to retrieving the sculptures instead. In doing so, the country has rejected the advice of barrister Amal Clooney, who had urged Greece to take Britain to the International Criminal Court. The Marbles were taken from Greece's Parthenon by Lord Elgin 200 years ago. Greece insists the Parthenon Sculptures - as they are properly known - were taken illegally and has pursued a high-profile campaign in recent years for their return, latterly with the help of Mrs Clooney. Mrs Clooney reportedly submitted a 150-page report to the Greek government this week urging it to formally request the repatriation of the marbles and take Britain to the International Criminal Court if it refused. But Greece's culture minister Nikos Xydakis told the country's Mega TV: "One cannot go to court over whatever issue. Besides, in international courts the outcome is uncertain". He said he believed attitudes to the future of the Marbles were slowly changing and would favour Greece in a diplomatic approach. The MarblesFriezes and pediment figures which decorated the Parthenon temple in Athens, built 447-432 BC Many were removed in 1801 by agents of the British diplomat Lord Elgin and in 1816 they were sold to the British Museum Most of the surviving sculptures are roughly equally divided between London and Athens The new Acropolis Museum opened in Athens in 2009. It is designed to display all of the surviving sculptures, in their original layout For 30 years, Athens has been locked in a bitter dispute over its demand for the marbles to be returned. The British Museum recently turned down a proposal by UNESCO, the UN cultural agency, to mediate in the dispute. Mr Xydakis condemned the refusal, accusing Britain of "negativism" and a "lack of respect". In December, the museum loaned one of the marbles for the first time to Russia for a display in St Petersburg's State Hermitage Museum. The Greek Prime Minister at the time, Antonis Samaras, said the museum's decision was "an affront" to the Greek people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I agree, Elgin deserves its marbles back. They'll look super behind the bar in the Rising Sun. Naw, Elgin lost them years ago but seriously Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Its just typical colonial UK. Any sane, reasonable person would see our position is abhorrent and they should be given back, but we refuse. How long did they keep the Stone of Destiny for? I can't wait to be out of this disgusting union, fox hunting coming back and stealing other county's heritage and refusing to give it back is not the type of country I want to be part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I agree, Elgin deserves its marbles back. They'll look super behind the bar in the Rising Sun. Did you know Elgin re-arranged is 'Nigel' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Did you know Elgin re-arranged is 'Nigel' ? well spotted. Did ye ken that flyerton re-arranged is Tony R. Elf ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Talking of marbles, anyone remember the 'king bool' the 'conk brain' which looked sort of like this: Talking about early 1980's here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McB Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can't wait to be out of this disgusting union, fox hunting coming back and stealing other county's heritage Whit county? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Whit county? Morayshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I know this is all going to sound incredibly racist but....... We used to call them chinkies in Elgin, because of the sound that they made when they hit each other. Also worth a mention were steelies, clearies, coloureds, plains and spiders. And they were called dooleys not marbles. Why is that racist? Serious question. Is chinking not a sound? Sorry if im offending anyone here, but is it not in the dictionary. Obviously if you were comparing the marble to a chinese person, then its out of order, as is the word.... But my first question still stands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I know this is all going to sound incredibly racist but....... We used to call them chinkies in Elgin, because of the sound that they made when they hit each other. Also worth a mention were steelies, clearies, coloureds, plains and spiders. And they were called dooleys not marbles. When I were a lad they were called Bools and the big steely yin wis called a Steely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Finders keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Finders keepers. Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Bools and Steelies in downtown Sauchie too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 in well heeled Edinburgh we had cat's eyes and spaghettis as well as steelies. The great big ones were called emperors. the Greeks should only get the Elgin Marbles back when they come and finish the building on top of Calton Hill. Cowboy builders the lot of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 in well heeled Edinburgh we had cat's eyes and spaghettis as well as steelies. The great big ones were called emperors. the Greeks should only get the Elgin Marbles back when they come and finish the building on top of Calton Hill. Cowboy builders the lot of them! :lol: Is there no yin in Oban as weel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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