djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Let me give you a hypothetical situation A SPFL club sets an amount as comp for a player that they have developed and is out of contract, say £300k. No other SPFL team can afford to touch the player at this price. Now lets say that the player is offerred a contract by a team outwith Europe and is seriously considering the offer.....now remember that in this situation the team is now due nil compo Team then has to drastically slash their £300k down to a level that other SPFL teams can afford in order to get some cash for him and player starts talking to a couple of SPFL teams. The clubs don't set the compensation fee, it's calculated based on the cost of brining a player through the youth system. They can accept a reduced fee, like we were allegedly willing to do with Utd. But if Hibs go ahead and sign him without an agreed fee then it'll go to the SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It would be sooooo St Mirren if this guy signed for us or something probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Absolute pish. We'd accept a reduced compensation from Dundee Utd, granted. But then, we're not in direct competition with them. I don't even know why I'm explaining this to you. There's absolutely no evidence McGinn is in Edinburgh talking to Hibs other than you saying he is. It's also being reported by the ever reliable Sun newspaper.... Hibs have now come out and said several times that we won't be selling Allan to Rangers. They'll look mighty stupid if it goes ahead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 The clubs don't set the compensation fee, it's calculated based on the cost of brining a player through the youth system. They can accept a reduced fee, like we were allegedly willing to do with Utd. But if Hibs go ahead and sign him without an agreed fee then it'll go to the SFA. Point im making is that St Mirren now need to accept a reduced fee or the player will just sign with the International team and they get nothing for him. Hence why hes now talking to Hibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm gonna need some proof here big chap I can't give you proof im afraid, I can give you my word that I know the above as facts but im not going to name my source if that's what you're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I fully expect St mirren to hold out for the full amount due if indeed hibs offer him a contract. Pretty similar to Scott Alans predicament. Ones out of contract, due a development fee within the UK The other is in the last year of his contract....... Nothing similar there...... apart from they are both midfielders....unless Stubbs has used a corner post as a spear and injure Allan It's also being reported by the ever reliable Sun newspaper.... Hibs have now come out and said several times that we won't be selling Allan to Rangers. They'll look mighty stupid if it goes ahead now. Like thats never happened before....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Ones out of contract, due a development fee within the UK The other is in the last year of his contract....... Nothing similar there...... apart from they are both midfielders....unless Stubbs has used a corner post as a spear and injure Allan Like thats never happened before....... When has a manager came out and said categorically that player X will not be sold to club Y and then the transfer goes ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 What the actual f'ck £800k, on one player, in the fucking Third Division - justi-fucking-fied Have a word with yourself ffs He's thepundit. This is what he does. Nobody, but nobody on this site can talk unmitigated shirt like the wallopers' walloper. He's a genius of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Point im making is that St Mirren now need to accept a reduced fee or the player will just sign with the International team and they get nothing for him. Hence why hes now talking to Hibs Houston can't sign McGinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Houston can't sign McGinn. Doubt he'd want to go to Failkirk anyway tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 St Mirren don't have to do anything tbh, let the court decide. They don't have to do anything.... but they are accepting a reduced fee for him if he signs for one of the SPFL teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Did we tell St Mirren we weren't going to take no for an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Houston can't sign McGinn. Im going to assume you think this due to the international players quota being used up in the MLS?? There is a way around this so it is possible for an MLS team to sign him still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Point im making is that St Mirren now need to accept a reduced fee or the player will just sign with the International team and they get nothing for him. Hence why hes now talking to Hibs He can't sign for Houston Dynamo as they do not have the required international slots. They one the traded to acquire is being used for a player coming back on loan. Equally there is evidence that whilst MLS teams don't pay training compensation directly, they have 'settled' with teams to avoid being taken to court. Whilst our chairman historically is useless with deals like his he holds the cards. Better taking the chance and just taking it to a tribunal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1875 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Did we tell St Mirren we weren't going to take no for an answer? Did we also mention we'd turn into a seething mess if they did say no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 When has a manager came out and said categorically that player X will not be sold to club Y and then the transfer goes ahead? Top of the head Raheem Sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1875 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Top of the head Raheem Sterling Yes, but in that case the club he went to could actually afford him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yes, but in that case the club he went to could actually afford him When did that stop Rangers....... every player has their price, especially in Scotland...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCFAFC Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why is there so much stuff about John McGinn when this is about Scott Allan and Hibs fan must now know that he is going to leave them to join Rangers before the end of this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Why is there so much stuff about John McGinn when this is about Scott Allan and Hibs fan must now know that he is going to leave them to join Rangers before the end of this window. Is it punctuation-free Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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