topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 At the risk of being crass,I think this thread’s long past having to worry about that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Anyone, ethical argument? You could google “Monopoly On Violence” for a start and maybe read a first year textbook on political philosophy if you’re really keen Hope that helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 They're really building the full NFL experience into the game, it seems. At this rate Madden 20 will likely have a feature where somebody will come round to your house with a pitbull and offer your dug a square go.Where can I buy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 12:16, renton said: The hardiest , semi-automatic toting survivalist camped out in the Mid-West would have a life expectancy measured in the minutes in the face of a combined arms US army battle group, after all. The Vietnamese and Iraqis did ok. Afghans are in their 17th year against the mighty US Army. Individually the gun nuts are outmanned but collectively they have to be respected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Detournement said: The Vietnamese and Iraqis did ok. Afghans are in their 17th year against the mighty US Army. Individually the gun nuts are outmanned but collectively they have to be respected. It's all about the rules of engagement, and the political dimension. If the US, or any western military for that matter, were allowed to engage in an all out total war with no regards to civilian casualties, none of those groups you mentioned would have survived very long. Indeed, in Syria where Assad doesn't give a shit about the court of public opinion, the same asymmetric tactics that have held up the US military for years were undone pretty quickly, and the various rebel groups stomped on pretty badly. In the hypothetical scenario of the state coming after the gun nuts, you can't imagine it being under the auspice of particularly Liberal democracy, ergo, I feel that they'd get rolled right over the top of in short order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 The US didn't follow any rules in Vietnam beyond not using Atomic weapons. The institutional racism that underwrites their aggresion abroad wouldn't apply in the USA. Working class Americans wouldn't attack each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Detournement said: The US didn't follow any rules in Vietnam beyond not using Atomic weapons. The institutional racism that underwrites their aggresion abroad wouldn't apply in the USA. Working class Americans wouldn't attack each other. In that case you have to factor in the US capacity to endure casualties, which has varied from conflict to conflict and ended up being the chief arbiter of US efforts in South East Asia. Also, a number of service chiefs at the time felt they were hamstrung in their efforts to control the Vietnamese situation - mostly in terms of limiting air support over North Vietnam early in the war. In any case, the constant friction of combat has fairly advances the US ability fight asymmetric opponents. The central point, that the US military possesses a de facto monopoly on coercion via violence, as banana called it, stands. Edited August 30, 2018 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 You both appear to be missing the fact that an afternoon's droning would obliterate any sort of militia uprising with considerable ease. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said: You both appear to be missing the fact that an afternoon's droning would obliterate any sort of militia uprising with considerable ease. And probably the succeeding generation, too, particularly if there are any school buses driving about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennboy1978 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Do you think this will help or hinder the NRA's stance? One one hand this 'proves' their theory that only people with mental health issues pose a threat and this one fell through the net when it comes to checks. On the other, it will further prove how fucking stupid America's current laws are regarding gun control (or lack thereof). In this instance the NRA have no answer. An obvious case of current on-going mental health issues but he STILL managed to get a gun. They'll probably put another couple of check boxes on a form and that will be that. ETA: First reply. What's the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 15:52, NotThePars said: Guns might kill a lot people but they also look cool so it’s impossible to say if they’re good or not Guns do look cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 18:59, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Still waiting on you getting back to me about these stats m9. I've covered this in some of my previous P&B Newsletters, some repeat reading / viewing for your pleasure, m7... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228350210_Gender_symmetry_in_partner_violence_The_evidence_the_denial_and_the_implications_for_primary_prevention_and_treatment As a wee bonus, a study in the US found that a man who calls the police on a violent partner is far more likely to be arrested than the woman he's reporting, while the reverse does not hold. For that you need to read up on critiques of the Duluth Model of IPV. Happy digging! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 30/08/2018 at 21:27, Zetterlund said: Who the f**k is Dave Vescio? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 15:52, NotThePars said: Guns might kill a lot people but they also look cool so it’s impossible to say if they’re good or not Depends on what angle you are looking at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/09/06/cincinnati-shooting-multiple-people-shot-downtown-building/1210512002/ Cincinatti is the latest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/09/06/cincinnati-shooting-multiple-people-shot-downtown-building/1210512002/ Cincinatti is the latest.Lots of “thoughts and prayers” in that article...That’s nice! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopburn boy Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Sadly it’s bigger news over there that some bloke , who got tired and knelt down got a gig advertising trainers Edited September 7, 2018 by bishopburn boy Clarity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Sadly it’s bigger news over there that some bloke , who got tired and knelt down got a gig advertising trainers ^^fake news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 ^^^ fake knees 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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