Steven W Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 hours ago, parsforlife said: I disagree. I like hearing players interact with each other. Far better than some artificial crowd noise. The benefit of watching games on tv with crowds is hearing them react to whats happening on the park but also reacting to each other and the back and forth you can get with chanting. The artificial created stuff is b.s and the tech would need to be far more reactive to the 100s of things that can happen in a match. You can't just have generic chanting interrupted by boos for a foul against and cheers for a goal. Here, I'm not saying it's right. I'm not even saying it's good. But I am saying (and I'm confident that I'm in the majority) that it's better than nothing. You are entitled to your viewpoint, if you prefer no crowd noise over crowd noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Karlsruhe beat Stuttgart to climb above Nuremberg and out of the relegation zone. Some result that.Keeps Stuttgart in 3rd, behind Hamburg. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Was the ref about to give that Augsburg player a second booking before he was subbed off there? Edited June 14, 2020 by Sherrif John Bunnell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Schalke vs Leverkusen was a belter. Schalke played better than they have in any game for months. Great save to deny them at the death. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Kaiserslautern are to file for insolvency with debts of 24m euro. A terrible shame, I've been over to see them a few times and their fans have always been great with us. They have a friendship with Kilmarnock since the European game between the sides in the 90s and seen a couple of Kilmarnock flags in their ultras section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocular Patdown Required Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said: Kaiserslautern are to file for insolvency with debts of 24m euro. A terrible shame, I've been over to see them a few times and their fans have always been great with us. They have a friendship with Kilmarnock since the European game between the sides in the 90s and seen a couple of Kilmarnock flags in their ultras section. There were quite a lot of Kaiserslautern fans that came over for the European away day in Wales last year, as well as for a couple of league games this season too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Pie Of The Month said: Kaiserslautern are to file for insolvency with debts of 24m euro. A terrible shame, I've been over to see them a few times and their fans have always been great with us. They have a friendship with Kilmarnock since the European game between the sides in the 90s and seen a couple of Kilmarnock flags in their ultras section. They seem to not be able to shake off these financial problems. Utter shame as they take a massive support wherever they go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: They seem to not be able to shake off these financial problems. Utter shame as they take a massive support wherever they go. From what kicker are saying this morning it seems that they are using the current situation to their advantage. DFB suspended the standard 9 point deduction for an insolvency event due to the Covid situation so Kaiserslautern can avoid relegation and either come to a settlement with those they owe money to or end up with the German equivalent of a CVA. With them not owning their stadium they don't have many assets which means the % of debt they'd have to repay will end up less than 10% of the current toal with new investors ready to step in once this is all done. They've been a financial basketcase for years now and apparently they've been running at a loss of around 5m euro a year in 3.Liga so it's been coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 I don't understand it. Surely they could scrape together enough cash to break even and at least compete for promotion in Liga 3? Their budget should in theory dwarf almost everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: I don't understand it. Surely they could scrape together enough cash to break even and at least compete for promotion in Liga 3? Their budget should in theory dwarf almost everyone. Up until the council voted to accept reduced rent this season they were paying 3.2m a year to rent the stadium. That plus servicing the debt they'd already run up left them with a playing budget comparable to a lot of the teams in the league that get much lower crowds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Grim stuff, I thought they'd managed to clear most of it years ago somehow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 They still seem to be confident they can start next season. They are hoping to make use of special rules to stop clubs going under due to the Coronavirus crisis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I had a Kaiserslautern shirt years ago from that wee in-shop in Parkhead Forge that sold quite a lot of random teams shirts. Hope they get through it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Watching the Gladbach game and definitely on the side of the fake crowd noise rather than against it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpar Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Is it only some clubs playing the crowd noise? Can't hear anything from the Union or Bremen game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeArab Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Bayern eventually confirmed as champions. What a save by Neuer at the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I see that Bayern II are in a strong position to finish in the promotion places in 3 Liga. Am I right in thinking that as a reserve team they can't be promoted any higher? What happens to the promotion place if they finish in one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Torpar said: Is it only some clubs playing the crowd noise? Can't hear anything from the Union or Bremen game? It depends on the TV feed whether they include it or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I see that Bayern II are in a strong position to finish in the promotion places in 3 Liga. Am I right in thinking that as a reserve team they can't be promoted any higher? What happens to the promotion place if they finish in one?Not sure whether they can go up to 2nd tier. Did notice that they are above 1860 Munich. Would be pretty galling for 1860 fans, if Bayern's reserve team deny them promotion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Bayern II aren't allowed to be promoted so the position would could as null and the promotion/play-off spot would go to the next position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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