Loondave1 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 No one is advocating a referendum any time soon. Sturgeon will do as she has said right from the start and explore all avenues to keep Scotland in the EU. When all avenues are fully explored and the likely outcome is that Scotland can't stay in the EU with access to the single market, then it's decision time. Do you want to stay in the UK but outside the EU? That scenario will probably come to fruition within the next couple of years. That's when Sturgeon will decide on indyref2. A certain Mr Salmond is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Colkitto said: No one is advocating a referendum any time soon. Sturgeon will do as she has said right from the start and explore all avenues to keep Scotland in the EU. When all avenues are fully explored and the likely outcome is that Scotland can't stay in the EU with access to the single market, then it's decision time. Do you want to stay in the UK but outside the EU? That scenario will probably come to fruition within the next couple of years. That's when Sturgeon will decide on indyref2. I voted Leave. You're not learning from the polls. The evidence is there. Leaving the EU won't increase support for leaving the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: A certain Mr Salmond is. No he's not. He gave a personal opinion on when he believes it likely to happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 minute ago, thepundit said: I voted Leave. You're not learning from the polls. The evidence is there. Leaving the EU won't increase support for leaving the UK. As mentioned in previous posts let's see the polls when article 50 is invoked 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, thepundit said: I voted Leave. You're not learning from the polls. The evidence is there. Leaving the EU won't increase support for leaving the UK. We'll see. The reality of leaving the EU hasn't sunk in yet because we haven't actually left it yet. F'ck knows what to do with my passport, it has expired but I don't want to pay for a new one just now when I might need to pay for another one in a couple of years time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 23 minutes ago, Colkitto said: As mentioned in previous posts let's see the polls when article 50 is invoked It won't change at that moment, But...... it might change when the trade deals etc with EU and non-EU countries have been agreed. I think we'll do well but if not then it'll probably increase support for a Yes vote. I really doubt that'll happen though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 It won't change at that moment, But...... it might change when the trade deals etc with EU and non-EU countries have been agreed. I think we'll do well but if not then it'll probably increase support for a Yes vote. I really doubt that'll happen though. Of course you do 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Our cars will start falling apart soon after with all the cheap crappy parts that we'll be buying in that won't match the EU standard. Ok I admit that's the kind of scaremongering we had to endure in Scotland a couple of years ago but it will be interesting to see how all the different industries react. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 54 minutes ago, thepundit said: It won't change at that moment, But...... it might change when the trade deals etc with EU and non-EU countries have been agreed. I think we'll do well but if not then it'll probably increase support for a Yes vote. I really doubt that'll happen though. There's no way Sturgeon will wait for a decade or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: There's no way Sturgeon will wait for a decade or more. I highly doubt Sturgeon will call a referendum at all. The implications are, in my opinion, to keep people voting SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, thepundit said: I highly doubt Sturgeon will call a referendum at all. The implications are, in my opinion, to keep people voting SNP. They'll keep voting SNP for as long as there's no credible alternative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: They'll keep voting SNP for as long as there's no credible alternative. I hope not. The best outcome is two parties with a large support competing against each other. The winner in that situation will be the public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, thepundit said: I hope not. The best outcome is two parties with a large support competing against each other. The winner in that situation will be the public. I'd far rather we voted for a credible party rather than vote for one that isn't just so we've got a competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Colkitto said: No he's not. He gave a personal opinion on when he believes it likely to happen No one is advocating a referendum any time soon. English is certainly not your first language is it son. You must be a Separatist Nazist Party spin doctor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, hehawhehaw said: No one is advocating a referendum any time soon. English is certainly not your first language is it son. You must be a Separatist Nazist Party spin doctor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Have the Conservative and Separatist Party all but conceded that the UK will tear itself out of the single market as their price to keep the non-Brits from getting in and offending middle England? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 13 hours ago, thepundit said: Not great reading for independence supporters and yet more evidence why there won't be another referendum any time soon. That said, I've only spoken to a few Yes supporters who think Brexit is a bad thing and I've yet to speak to a No voter who has switched to Yes on the basis of Brexit so I'm not surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: Some lefty you are when access to a free market economy seems to be the most important driver in any political decision that should be made. Perhaps we should just let corporations make our political decisions instead of elected MPs.. Some unionist you are when you oppose political union. Or is it just non-Brits you can't stomach sharing any kind of decision-making with? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstarstranraer Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-36782522 Hope other local authority areas follow suit and protect themselves from being dragged out of a union they didn't want to leave... Did you even read that properly? Dumfries and Galloway councillors have rejected a motion for a separate referendum in the region in the event of another Scottish independence vote. Hope other local authority areas follow suit and kick such ridiculous notions into touch with equal alacrity. So even in Dumfries and Galloway, where only 9 out of 47 councillors are in the SNP group, this sort of desperate notion doesn't fly. Really looks like a winner then doesn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 As long as Labour are a complete clusterfuck, we need the SNP to be a strong force in Scotland if we're not independent. If Labour in it's current form gained any sort of momentum, we'd be even more fucked than we are now. If that's what you want then batter on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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